The historical truth about Nazism and Christianity
“We are the joyous Hitler Youth,
We need no stinkin’ Christian virtue
Our Fuhrer is our savior and future
The Pope and Rabbi shall be gone
We wish to be pagans once again.
We follow not Christ, but Horst Wessel,
Away with incense and Holy Water vessel,
The Church should hang for all we care,
The Swastika brings salvation on Earth everywhere.”
– Nazi Youth Song (The 12-year Reich: a social history of Nazi Germany, 1933-1945 By Richard Grunberger. P. 442)
The fools (atheists) have tried to convince people of laughably historically inaccurate claims like “Nazism had it’s roots in Christianity” or that “Hitler was a very religious Christian motivated by Christianity”.
Atheists as a whole are weak, primitive, and small-minded people, this is why they discourage people from looking at actual historical sources and what the historical evidence shows. Atheists only encourage people to read things from atheist fan sites and live in denial.
The main sign of how weak the atheist kind are is their disgust with criticism and scrutiny (one of the main principles in science). Since they know that all of their claims are false and wrong they don’t allow people to question, criticize, and scrutinize their claims. If something really is true then it will stand up to any amount of criticism and scrutiny, this is why criticism and scrutiny is an important principle in science (as I repeatedly explain in many of my articles).
Time to wake up the atheist/anti-science crowd: The historical consensus is that Nazism is either unrelated to Christianity or fundamentally opposed to Christianity.
Even the supposedly intelligent atheist Richard Dawkins (the leader of the foolish and disgusting) has made the historically inaccurate error of claiming that Hitler was a Christian (even though every valid historical source indicates otherwise).
Of course atheists aren’t very fond of using actual historical sources, just nonsense found on atheist propaganda sites (these sites obviously do not allow criticism and scrutiny of their laughably historically inaccurate claims or even cite any historical sources).
Let’s start off with what the most prominent Nazi officials thought of Christianity (during a time period when Germany was a very religious Christian country):
“We will have to deal with Christianity in a tougher way than hitherto. We must settle accounts with this Christianity, this greatest of plagues that could have happened to us in our history, which has weakened us in every conflict. If our generation does not do it then it would I think drag on for a long time” – Nazi leader, Henrich Himmler (Nazism; A History In Documents And Eyewitness Accounts, 1919 – 1945 by J. Noakes and G. Pridham)
“One is either a Christian or a German. You can’t be both.” – Nazi associate, Hermann Rauschning (Gesprache mit Hitler (Zurich, 1940))
“We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany.” – Nazi leader, Adolf Hitler (Heiden, Konrad (1935). A History of National Socialism. A.A. Knopf, p. 100)
“National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable” – Nazi Party Chancellery, Martin Bormann (Conway, John S. (1997). The Nazi Persecution of the Churches, 1933-1945. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, p. 383. Full Letter)
Alfred Rosenberg, the Nazi Party philosopher wrote in his 30-point plan for the National Reich Church:
“- The National Reich Church claims exclusive right and control over all Churches.
– The National Church is determined to exterminate foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800.
– The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible.
– The National Church will clear away from its altars all Crucifixes, Bibles and pictures of Saints.
On the altars there must be nothing but Mein Kampf and to the left of the altar a sword” ( Shirer, William Lawrence (1990). The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany. New York: Simon and Schuster, p. 240.)
Historians and Researchers on Hitler’s religious views:
- “[Hitler] was not a Christian in any accepted meaning of that word.”
– Historian, Max Domarus (Adolf Hitler; Max Domarus (1 April 2007). The Essential Hitler: Speeches and Commentary. Bolchazy-Carducci Publishers. pp. 137–. ISBN 978-0-86516-627-1. Retrieved 6 August 2012.)
- “”Hitler did not believe in the afterlife, but he did believe he would have a life after death because of what he had achieved.”
- “….if we consider Christianity in its traditional or orthodox form: Jesus as the son of God, dying for the redemption of the sins of all humankind. It is a nonsense to state that Hitler (or any of the Nazis) adhered to Christianity of this form.”
– Researcher, Samuel Koehne (Koehne, Samuel, Hitler’s faith: The debate over Nazism and religion, ABC Religion and Ethics, 18 Apr. 2012)
- “[Hitler was not a] practising Christian”
– Historian, Richard Overy (Overy, R. J. (2004). The Dictators: Hitler’s Germany and Stalin’s Russia. New York: W. W. Norton, pp. 280-282.)
- Many historians believe that Hitler hated Christianity but did not want to directly confront the situation (since Germany was a very religious Christian country)
Source: (Robert S. Wistrich (1 May 2007). Laboratory for World Destruction: Germans and Jews in Central Europe. U of Nebraska Press. pp. 375–. ISBN 978-0-8032-1134-6. Retrieved 25 August 2012.)
But what about Hitler’s alleged “pro-Christian” speeches, “Positive Christianity”, and ties between Nazism and the Church:
- The historical consensus is that the biggest opposition towards Nazism was the Church
(Yahil, Leni; Friedman, Ina; Galai, Hayah (1991). The Holocaust: the fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945. Oxford University Press US. pp. 57. ISBN 978-0-19-504523-9. Retrieved 2009-08-10)
- Many historians believe that the Nazis wanted to exterminate Christianity, this is supported by Alfred Rosenberg’s statements, and other historical evidence
Sources: (Bonney, Richard, Confronting the Nazi war on Christianity: the Kulturkampf newsletters, 1936-1939, p. 10, Peter Lang, 2009, Griffin, Roger (2006). “Fascism’s relation to religion”, in Cyprian Blamires World Fascism: a historical encyclopedia, Volume 1. Santa Barbara CA: ABC-CLIO, p. 10, Mosse, George Lachmann (2003). Nazi culture: intellectual, cultural and social life in the Third Reich. Univ. of Wisconsin Press, p. 240: “Had the Nazis won the war their ecclesiastical policies would have gone beyond those of the German Christians, to the utter destruction of both the Protestant and the Catholic Church.”, Bendersky, Joseph W. (2007). A concise history of Nazi Germany. Rowman & Littlefield, p. 147: “Consequently, it was Hitler’s long range goal to eliminate the churches once he had consolidated control over his European empire.”, Shirer, William L. (1990). Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany. New York: Simon and Schuster, p 240: “And even fewer paused to reflect that under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended eventually to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists.”, Wheaton, Eliot Barculo (1968). The Nazi revolution, 1933-1935: prelude to calamity:with a background survey of the Weimar era. Doubleday, pp. 290, 363: The Nazis sought to “to eradicate Christianity in Germany root and branch.”)
- Hitler’s alleged “pro-Christian” public speeches come from during the time period when Germany was a very religious Christian country and when the Nazis didn’t have power (and thus needed to support Christianity to gain power), after the Nazis gained power, in the mid-1930s Hitler’s “pro-Christian” attitude fell away completely, and many Churches were closed down by Hitler
(Halls, W.D. (1995). Politics, society and Christianity in Vichy France. Oxford: Berg. pp. 179–81. ISBN 1-85973-081-7.)
- Many historians believe that the gap between Hitler’s public views and private views had to do with not wanting to publicly fight against the Church since Germany had been an extremely religious Christian country during Hitler’s time
- “Positive Christianity” which was invented by Alfred Rosenberg (who already hated Christianity) gained very little support and failed miserably since it was not supported by any mainstream Christian denomination, by 1940 Hitler gave up on supporting “Positive Christianity” since it failed to gain any traction
(Poewe, Karla (2006). New Religions and the Nazis.Routledge, p. 30.)
Another important thing to note:
- Recently a great fool (atheist) Richard Carrier has claimed that the book “Hitler’s Table Talk” is nonsense and full of false quotes. This is propounded on many atheist fan sites and most atheists being exceedingly gullible really believe that it’s true.
However the opinion of Richard Carrier (the source atheist use for this claim) is not accepted by historians and the historical consensus, this entire claim is just nonsense atheist propaganda found on atheist/anti-science fan sites.
Richard Carrier offers no hard evidence of his claims. Carrier and his supporters are about the only ones who believe that the book “Hitler’s Table Talk” is entirely inaccurate.
An example of a joke atheist fan site that propounds this lie is nobeliefs.com (http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm). The site actually provides no hard evidence that the book “Hitler’s Table Talk” is inaccurate and simply discusses circumstantial things that would apply to any book published in the past during Hitler’s time (like no recorded audios leftover of the conversation). Even in modern times there are no recorded audios of many conversations that people have. The entire site in general just ignores the historical consensus and historical evidence.
The original Table Talk books were published in 1951-1953, and everything indicates that these books are as legit as any other Table Talk book in history could be.
Every historical source (except for Richard Carrier) clearly indicates that the book “Hitler’s Table Talk” is authentic, reliable, and accurate, despite what atheists want to believe and what Richard Carrier believes.
Sources: (Kershaw, Ian (2001). Hitler 1889-1936: Hubris. London: Penguin. pp. xiv. ISBN 978-0140133639., Piper, Ernst (January 2007). “Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich (extended review)”. Journal of Contemporary History 42 (1): 47-57, esp. 49-51. Retrieved 14 January 2013., Shirer, William (1960, 1998). The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. London: Arrow Books. pp. 234–240.ISBN 978-0-09-942176-4., Evans, Richard J. (2008). The Third Reich at War: How the Nazis led Germany from conquest to disaster. London: Penguin. pp. 547 (546–9). ISBN 978-0-141-01548-4.).
- There is also lots of other nonsense found on atheist sites about how every anti-Christian Nazi quote is some how inaccurate. The main strategy these atheists use is to point out one historian who disagrees and ignore the historical consensus as a whole. So you might as well be arguing that the holocaust was a hoax.
The reason why most historians do not accept this nonsense propounded by atheists that “every anti-Christian Nazi quote is a lie” is simply because multiple different sources (that have nothing to do each other) clearly indicate how anti-Christian the Nazis were.
It is highly unlikely that different sources that have absolutely no connection to each other would just decide to intentionally lie and some how match up with each other.
There are many other different sources besides “Hitler’s Table Talk” that all clearly indicate that Hitler was anti-clerical at at least one time period in his life.
How can every different source that indicates that Hitler was anti-clerical be a made up lie? It doesn’t make sense.
Besides this we also have undeniable evidence that many Nazi officials were anti-clerical, so it all matches up and explains why the historical consensus doesn’t side with the “pro-Christian Nazi” arguments delusional atheists use.
Why can’t atheists face reality instead of living in denial?
To summarize the weak pro-Christian Nazi arguments atheists use:
– Make up lies about how the book “Hitler’s Table Talk” was false or how any source indicating anything anti-Christian about the Nazis is false, even though every historical source and the historical consensus indicates that it’s completely accurate and reliable
– Ignore the historical consensus that Nazism is either unrelated to Christianity or fundamentally opposed to Christianity
– Point out pro-Christian speeches Hitler made when the Nazis didn’t have power and when Germany was an extremely religious Christian country (meaning that if Hitler opposed Christianity it would’ve been political suicide and the Nazis would’ve dramatically reduced their chances of gaining power)
– Ignore the historical fact that after the Nazis gained power all of Hitler’s supposed “pro-Christian” behavior ended
– Point out Nazis mentioning a type of “God” even though Henrich Himmler made it clear that when he mentions “God” he is referring to the Pagan Germanic God “Wralda” and Martin Bormann also indicated that he was not referring to any Christian God
– Point out “Positive Christianity” (which was invented by the Nazis and not accepted by any mainstream Christian church) and ignore the fact that Hitler abandoned supporting “Positive Christianity” because it failed and churches continued to oppose it and Nazism in general
– Ignore the fact that the vast majority of historians do not believe that Hitler was a Christian at all, only a very small minority do
– Ignore everything anti-Christian that Hitler did or said
– Ignore all the anti-Christian speeches Nazi officials made
– Ignore how anti-Christian in general Nazism was even during Hitler’s time when Germany was a very religious Christian country
– Ignore the undeniable fact that during Hitler’s time and in modern times no mainstream Christian denomination accepts White Nationalism or any form of it
Henrich Himmler and the other Nazis were very worried about Christianity, but with the non-religious and atheist population rising they won’t have to anymore. The rise in the atheist and non-religious population is a great thing for the Nazi movement.
An ominous warning to the world:
– The best thing that ever happened to the Nazi/White Nationalist movement is people being less religious and atheistic, because this would guarantee that oppositions towards White Nationalism ceases (since the main opposition towards White Nationalism is Judeo-Christian religions)
– In the US with a 0.7% atheist population Tom Metzger founder of the Neo-Nazi group White Aryan Resistance is an atheist
– It’s happened in 100% of all White atheist countries (they’ve all become Nazi-ish) like Sweden, Denmark, New Zealand, etc…, and will happen in countries with growing atheist populations (Australia, Canada, The Netherlands), and eventually in the US once the atheist population goes up
– The historical consensus is that Nazism as a whole was either unrelated to Christianity or opposed to it
– Most historians do not believe that Hitler was actually a Christian
– In time Nazism will grow in popularity as the atheist and non-religious population rises (specifically because this causes opposition towards Nazism to cease)
– Everything I’ve written about Nazism and Christianity can be confirmed by concrete reliable historical sources and the historical consensus, just double-check, or tripe-check it if you want
– Atheists will try everything in their power to prevent people from criticizing other racist/Nazi/White Nationalist atheists and racist atheist countries, this is because atheists strongly agree with and support racism and White Nationalism.
Enjoy these last days in the US, once the atheist and non-religious population goes up that’s it, the Nazis and White Nationalists will attempt to take over!