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August 11, 2012 / itsnobody

Why an appeal to authority is NEVER valid in science

Throughout history the main block to scientific progress has always been the atheist population.

Now that the fools (atheists) have taken over science, science is ALL about authority and incredulity. You let a bunch of subhuman atheist animals run loose and all they do is turn science into a laughable popularity contest.

Now it’s time for me to teach the fools (atheists) why an appeal to authority is always invalid in science.

In science, scientific evidence is equivalent to empirical observations and valid reasons to support an assertion, not an authority figure or authority figures saying something.

Since authority figures saying something isn’t equivalent to scientific evidence an appeal to authority would always be invalid in science, always.

Let’s look at this simple example:
“The reason that the Earth revolves around the Sun is because some scientists said so” – an appeal to authority, the fool’s (atheist’s) way

“The reason that the Earth revolves around the Sun is because the heliocentric model predicts the observed data most accurately” – an actual reason

We also know from history that basically every authority figure (Newton, Einstein, Maxwell, etc…) has been wrong about something, so authority alone is highly unreliable.

Science has to do with empirically testing hypotheses and using empirical observations and valid reasons to determine what’s true or false, not with what authority figures believe.

Atheists have set back science by valuing authority too highly, it’s like taking massive steps backwards into ancient pre-science times.

Hopefully I can get people to give up the way of the atheist and go back to giving empirical observations and valid reasons to support assertions rather than just pointing out what authority figures say or believe.

In modern times now that atheists have taken over science people simply talk about what scientists say or believe instead of what empirical observations and valid reasoning tells us.

When the fools (atheists) debate and discuss things in modern times they will usually talk about “what credentials does this person have?”, “what education does this person have?” and other things revolving around authority alone rather than discussing “what are empirical observations and valid reasons to support this assertion?”. In other words modern science is JUST about authority.

Just imagine how far science would be if authority had absolutely no value and instead empirical observations and valid reasoning were the only things that were valued highly.

Take for instance something like the String Theory. Atheists have concluded that the String Theory is science simply because “some scientists have said so” even though the String Theory matches the exact precise definition of pseudoscience, it is accepted as science because of nothing more than authority. In other words in modern times things are considered as science or pseudoscience by nothing more than purely scientific recognition or authority alone rather than because they match a certain criteria.

Atheists are truthfully the most disgusting people that exist, always out to threaten science and hold back human progress.

What a sad thing it is that now that atheists have taken over science, science is all about “determining what’s true or false by using authority”.

No greater threat has arisen to science than the rise in the atheist population.

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  1. Anonymous / Oct 1 2015 6:20 pm

    Cherry picking fallacy and some pretty self-righteous moralizing. Religion is based on arguments from authority. Whether done by theists or atheists it springs from the same basic psychological tendencies.

  2. Chris P / Sep 2 2012 2:08 pm

    “Atheists are truthfully the most disgusting people that exist, always out to threaten science and hold back human progress.” –

    Twit features – as an atheist I helped invent the disk drive you are using on your computer and continue to improve data storage solutions. When I started on the first one it was 5 megabytes and $15000 for unit about the size of a desktop PC – last month I finished designing a box that is about the same size, costs less and contains 140 terabytes. God didn’t build that. The religious are not so good at invention and progress because they think prayer works. Why would I “threaten” something that helps make me a nice pay check?

    “What a sad thing it is that now that atheists have taken over science, science is all about “determining what’s true or false by using authority”.”

    That’s really ridiculous – but then that’s what the religious do. You are the ones that use an “authority” – th e invisible nasty magic man in the sky.

    “No greater threat has arisen to science than the rise in the atheist population.” –

    Prove it. How does wasting time at church and reading the same old stupid book of fiction over and over again substitute for reading the latest science and engineering books and doing experiments. I haven’t learned squat about science from your silly book.

    • Molly Dawkins / Oct 6 2012 10:54 pm

      “as an atheist I helped invent the disk drive ”

      So when Reynold B Johnson invented the Disk drive,he sought your services based on the notion that you are an atheist? Are you going to claim that you also made the PC cheaper because you are an atheist? You are one deluded troll.I thought religious fundamentalists were batshit but you just surpassed them

      • Nate / Oct 7 2012 1:36 am

        Nice strawman.

  3. Bryan Barrett / Aug 12 2012 11:38 pm

    “Hopefully I can get people to give up the way of the atheist and go back to giving empirical observations and valid reasons to support assertions rather than just pointing out what authority figures say or believe.”

    “In modern times now that atheists have taken over science people simply talk about what scientists say or believe instead of what empirical observations and valid reasoning tells us.”

    “When the fools (atheists) debate and discuss things in modern times they will usually talk about “what credentials does this person have?”, “what education does this person have?” and other things revolving around authority alone rather than discussing “what are empirical observations and valid reasons to support this assertion?”. In other words modern science is JUST about authority.”

    In these three qoutes, “valid reasons” or “valid reasoning” and emperical observation are mentioned as tools to evaluate a claim. To use a recent example, the possible discovery of the Higgs Bosun, I do not have any type of particle collider so I am unable to test the claim on my own. I am not a particle physisist, so if I had an accelerator I would not know how to set up the experiment or evaluate the results of such had one been set up.

    Am I to not beleive the claim, a theorized particle may have been detected, by using reason and logic to evaluate the scientists (Authorities) credentials, to determine if it is reasonable to believe they have made such a discovery?

    As another example, if someone were to tell me they invented a machine that cures cancer, and he stated he has emperically observed the results, what methods should I use to verify the veracity of his claim?

  4. Nate / Aug 12 2012 2:44 am

    I’m going to ask one simple question, exactly what does not believing in any deities have anything to do with any of the baseless assertions you’ve made against atheists?

    • itsnobody / Aug 12 2012 10:22 am

      You’re just using a straw man, I’m not arguing here that atheism directly causes atheists to be so stupid and idiotic as to value authority so highly I’m arguing that now that atheists have taken over science atheists value authority alone and have given authority the highest value instead of giving empirical observations and valid reasoning the highest value.

      I don’t why atheists are this stupid, but they should stop.

      Whatever the reason or cause of these foolish (atheistic) valuing authority so highly instead of empirical observations and valid reasoning I hope that it stops.

      I’m sure that since atheists know many of their beliefs are all wrong and false it’s no surprise that they discourage experimentation, using empirical observations, and valid reasoning.

      Atheists know they’ll be proven wrong, so they discourage it, and only encourage using authority.

      • Nate / Aug 12 2012 10:58 am

        I’m not making an argument, I’m simply asking a questions as to how all atheists, who only share a disbelief in deities, can all be racist, subhuman, the worst people, unable to argue, fools and valuing authority.

  5. GreenDiamond / Aug 11 2012 5:27 pm

    “Throughout history the main block to scientific progress has always been the atheist population.”

    So the modern issue over stem cell research is about the atheists population wanting to ban stem cell research? That is odd….. I thought that it was the religious people who want to stop it! Thanks for helping me with my confusion!!

    So I guess that the same is true with Galileo? So the pope, bishops and priests who wanted to stop his work (and kicked him out of the church because of his work) were really all atheists????!!!! This is amazing new information!!

    As to believing something because an “authority” says that it is true is alot loke believing something becasue some book (written down by man) says that it is true…… wait…. isn’t that was religious people do?! Now I am all confused again…. Please, itsnobody, help me out with my confusion!!!

    Since you don’t like people having credentials then I guess what you do like is someone saying that “god told me”!!!

    • itsnobody / Aug 11 2012 7:35 pm

      Thanks for this laughable response from that disgusting low-life atheist mouth of yours. It just shows how gullible people are believing only what they hear in the low-life atheist media.

      So the modern issue over stem cell research is about the atheists population wanting to ban stem cell research? That is odd….. I thought that it was the religious people who want to stop it! Thanks for helping me with my confusion!!

      That is odd, because religion has done basically nothing to stop stem cell research. The issues mentioned on TV are just about funding.

      It’s really just nothing more than pure speculation that science would be ahead because most of the problems biologists face with stem cell research have nothing to do with gathering embryonic stem cells. That’s why countries like China haven’t made any significant breakthroughs.

      Since it’s just speculation that science would some how be ahead I could easily speculate that if Theists ran science they would’ve simply found ways to gather embryonic-like cells without destroying embryos (which would dramatically reduce the cost of embryonic stem cell research) and that science would be ahead since the cost of embryonic stem cell research would be reduced dramatically.

      But embryonic stem cell research is just one avenue. Since atheists are basically subhumans I don’t think they would make any significant progress regardless of the resources they have, just as with everything else they’ve touched upon. Why don’t you and all your other low-life atheist friends just go to an atheist country and do embryonic stem cell research? I’m sure you all will accomplish nothing, as usual.

      I’ve already been working on things far more promising than embryonic stem cell research….

      So I guess that the same is true with Galileo? So the pope, bishops and priests who wanted to stop his work (and kicked him out of the church because of his work) were really all atheists????!!!! This is amazing new information!!

      Thanks for demonstrating the typical gullible nature of the low-life atheist.

      The reason Galileo had been studying astronomy was because the Church was the biggest sponsor of astronomy.

      “Only recently we have got a very good study of Catholicism and early modern science from John Heilbron, whose prize-winning study The Sun in the Church: Cathedrals as Solar Observatories argues that the Roman Catholic church gave more financial aid and social support to the study of astronomy for over six centuries, from the recovery of ancient learning during the late Middle Ages into the Enlightenment, than any other – and probably all other – institutions. What would we have done without the Catholic Church?” – Ronald Numbers

      You can learn about the basic history of religion and science – http://www.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk/faraday/CIS/Numbers/Numbers_Lecture.pdf instead of being delusional and gullible.

      “appreciated that the reference to heresy in connection with Galileo or Copernicus had no general or theological significance.” (Heilbronn)

      In reality since the Church needed astronomy for calendars the Galileo affair had done nothing to stop the growth of science. What really directly caused science to exist was religion since religion was the cause of people studying astronomy. In China they hadn’t even come close to anything like a heliocentric model and the Chinese believed that the Earth was flat and square until the 17th Century when Jesuit priest astronomers introduced the round Earth idea to them.

      Another thing the fools (atheists) don’t know is that with Copernicus’ and Galileo’s contributions alone the heliocentric theory would be just mere speculation, difficult to distinguish from geoheliocentric models.

      The reason people hadn’t believed in the heliocentric model was because of their senses, the Greeks, and no way to distinguish competing models.

      With Galileo’s contributions alone it would be impossible to know if the heliocentric model was true or false.

      The one who solidified the heliocentric model was not Galileo but Isaac Newton who was much more religious than all the other scientists during his era.

      I don’t know where atheists got this ridiculous idea that without evidence and with our senses telling us that the Sun moves around the Earth that people would just all of a sudden believe in the heliocentric model because Galileo believed so.

      As to believing something because an “authority” says that it is true is alot loke believing something becasue some book (written down by man) says that it is true…… wait…. isn’t that was religious people do?! Now I am all confused again…. Please, itsnobody, help me out with my confusion!!!

      I can help you out, all you’re doing is using a straw man. I didn’t argue that no religious people use authority or whatever. I argued that atheists are ruining science by valuing authority alone and turning science into a popularity contest.

      Also in a religious setting where people use authority it’s not harmful to science at all, and has no effect on science.
      I’m talking about valuing authority alone in a scientific setting not a religious setting.

      So are you agreeing with me that people shouldn’t value authority highly in science?

      Since you don’t like people having credentials then I guess what you do like is someone saying that “god told me”!!!

      I guess that savage subhuman primitive atheist mind didn’t read where I wrote about empirical observations and valid reasoning having the highest value, not someone saying so fool.

      Empirical observations and valid reasoning should always have a higher value than credentials in science.

      Where did that subhuman atheist mind of yours get the idea that all that I “like is someone saying that “god told me””?

      • Chris P / Sep 3 2012 2:27 pm

        Well – liars for Jesus is back in action. Religious groups have been successful at getting legislation passed to ban stem cell research.

        I think you are unhinged.

        So where is the empirical proof, fossil records and valid reasoning for a magic man.

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