Atheists often claim that atheism is some how more rational or logical than Theism.
In reality however there is no such thing as a logical atheistic argument. 100% of atheistic arguments are illogical.
I challenge any atheist to propose any argument they have here so I can explain how and why it’s illogical. Feel free to post any argument in the comments section here. Everything is free and open here.
This challenge is for atheists who believe either of these:
– God does not exist
– God is unlikely to exist
This is NOT a challenge for atheists who:
– Make no claims regarding the existence or non-existence of God
I’ll update this article with refutations as people post arguments.
[UPDATE 12.08.2011] – So far no atheist has proposed any argument (I don’t consider that ad hominem as an argument)
[UPDATE 12.17.2011] – Replied to Anon, I am looking forward to more and more arguments and criticisms for me to debunk. Hopefully if more and more people post arguments or questions I can eventually debunk virtually every atheistic argument that exists.
[UPDATE 02.15.2012] – I am short on time, but I updated this post with some new refutations. I will eventually refute all of the laughable arguments atheists have provided. Their arguments are so weak it’s just too easy. I get my arguments from my own independent mind, so how can atheists compete? All they can do is copy arguments from other atheists.
Knowing my beliefs to be true, flawless, faultless, and without error I encourage people to question, criticize, scrutinize things so that they can see that I am correct.
The main reason why atheists intentionally disallow free and open criticism of their arguments is specifically because they are anti-science fanatics and know that their arguments and beliefs are wrong and false, so they ban and block anyone from questioning, criticizing, or scrutinizing their arguments. If a statement is true then it will stand up to any amount of criticism, so why do atheists intentionally prevent criticism for?
Since I know my statements are true I intentionally encourage criticism.
Atheistic arguments are so laughable and weak, I don’t know how anyone can seriously take atheistic arguments seriously. If atheists really take their arguments seriously then they must be foolish, idiotic, senseless, or not understand anything about logic or science.
There simply is no such thing as a logical atheistic argument.
What do you call a theory that relies on too many experimentally unverifiable assumptions? A science fiction story. – itsnobody
If we are to be completely honest and objective with ourselves we can see with 100% certainty that evolution the theory is nothing more than a nonsensical pseudo-scientific science fiction story put out in the media and sold as true.
Initially believing in evolution because I was taught to and because of authority figures I’ve come out to oppose evolution. The atheist-controlled media can’t protect evolution forever.
Anyone who objectively evaluates the facts going only by evidence, empirical observations, and valid reasoning (rather than by authority, incredulity, and other things popular in anti-science/atheist circles) would see that evolution as we know it is a borderline impossibility!
It’s time that people stop believing lies in the atheist-controlled media and start calling out “evolution” the theory as a whole for what it really is – a nonsensical pseudo-scientific science fiction idea just the same as “X-Men” or other science fiction ideas.
The atheist-controlled media has an issue with people questioning or criticizing evolution, a borderline pseudo-scientific idea, but clown atheists like Ayn Rand and Daniel Dennett can spread their propaganda on “free-will”, an idea thoroughly falsified in science by repeatable experiments.
Why can’t atheists and evolutionists realize that believing in free-will is more irrational than denying evolution the theory as a whole?
Obviously denying physics, every field in modern science, repeatable experiments and direct observation to believe in “free-will” is more irrational than denying assumptions in evolution which are impossible to experimentally verify as true.
The only way that you can disagree with me is if you’re not going by evidence but by your bias.
The scientific issues, problems, gaps, and unknowns in evolution are much much bigger than the scientific issues with saying there’s no free-will.
It’s pretty funny to talk to people who believe in evolution but then deny the evidence on free-will, it proves their bias and how they don’t really care about evidence at all.
Even worse, evolution requires determinism to be true, yet the fools (atheists) who believe in free-will usually attack determinism, so they are attacking evolution as well. Non-determinism would falsify evolution!
The atheist-controlled media and atheist/anti-science community has no issue with people questioning the repeatable experiments telling us that there’s no such thing as “free-will”, so why do they have an issue with people questioning assumptions in evolution that aren’t even based on anything experimentally verifiable?
The answer is because the media is CONTROLLED and BIASED towards evolution. That’s the only rational explanation.
Have you ever heard even one time anywhere any Professors getting fired for believing in free-will or even one time in the media a “free-will believer” being attacked? I haven’t.
On the other hand lots of Professors who are critical of evolution get fired, people who deny evolution are attacked in the media because the media and society is biased and doesn’t care about evidence, science, or proof.
“The Problem of Free-Will” argument is usually used against religion, so of course the atheist-controlled media won’t come out to force the non-existence free-will belief onto society like how they’ve tried to force the science fiction story called “evolution” onto society.
Otherwise we would predict that the media would be attacking free-will believers and saying you’re not allowed to say or teach that free-will exists, but this isn’t case.
So we can be around 100% certain that not even one atheist or evolutionist actually cares about evidence, science, or proof.
What a terrible thing the media has done.
Just imagine how much better society would be if people gave up on the “free-will delusion”, stopped blaming people, holding grudges, refusing to forgive and forget, saw the true innocence in all beings, and focused on the scientific causes of negative behavior.
One of the main principles in science is criticism and scrutiny, so why are evolutionists trying to stop people from questioning, criticizing, and scrutinizing evolution?
It’s simple, they know that if a theory really is true that it will stand up to any amount of criticism so they have to stop everyone from criticizing evolution because they know how weak of a theory it is and that it will be falsified.
Although I can’t be sure as to exactly how life started, I can be 100% certain that whatever happened isn’t modern day evolution as we know it.
We do not respect these anti-science atheist clowns intent on protecting their science fiction idea from criticism and scrutiny.
On my blog site full-fledged free speech is allowed, so anyone is free to refute any statement that I made (since I know that I’m right I encourage criticism).
Now onto my main arguments:
– How is evolution equivalent a science fiction story that COULD be true?
It’s pretty simple, assumptions, hypotheses, or speculations that have never been experimentally verified as accurate but could be true are equivalent to stories. Almost everything in the theory of evolution is impossible to experimentally verify as accurate, so it’s basically the same as a science fiction story.
What if I made up a story about how a long time ago in the past there were giant humanoid insect-like creatures on Earth, but they went extinct, and all their fossils disappeared…wouldn’t that be nearly the same as the modern day theory of evolution?
Or what about the “X-Men” story…a story of humans that mutate and gain superhuman powers…it’s nearly the same as evolution as well.
Lots of science fiction stories are nearly equivalent in terms of how “scientific” they are to the theory of evolution.
– The laws of physics should be modified to fit into clown evolutionists science fiction ideas?
The difference between physics and evolution is that engineers have experimentally verified the accuracy of physics literally BILLIONS of times already whereas so many assumptions in evolution are impossible to experimentally verify as accurate!
Since when did we change physics to match into assumptions that have never been experimentally verified as accurate?
But here we have the media and society saying that we should make an exception to evolution based off nothing. Apparently evolution is an exception to the second law of thermodynamics.
“But if your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation.” – Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington, The Nature of the Physical World (1915), chapter 4
“[Thermodynamics] is the only physical theory of universal content which I am convinced will never be overthrown, within the framework of applicability of its basic concepts.” – Albert Einstein
“The second law of thermodynamics is, without a doubt, one of the most perfect laws in physics. Any reproducible violation of it, however small, would bring the discoverer great riches as well as a trip to Stockholm. The world’s energy problems would be solved at one stroke.” – Ivan P. Bazarov, “Thermodynamics” (1964)
Evolutionist response: “The Earth is not an isolated system, therefore the law does not apply. The Sun’s energy could increase order on Earth.”
LOL! I guess everyone needs a good laugh at the clown science fiction evolutionist response.
There’s a big problem with this claim: Engineers know that entropy applies ON EARTH and in open systems.
Using the clown evolutionist reasoning engineers can give up on entropy and come up with “magical” devices since the “Earth is not an isolated system” or whatever, lol.
I guess this means that 100% efficient heat engines and perpetual motion machines that violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics are now possible ON EARTH because “the Earth is not an isolated system” LOL!
How can anyone be this stupid? I guess since the media has protected evolution like a religious belief rather than treating it as another scientific theory physicists are forced to remain silent about their doubts of this ridiculous science fiction idea called “evolution”.
“if an increase in order is extremely improbable when a system is closed, it is still extremely improbable when the system is open, unless something is entering which makes it not extremely improbable” – Granville Sewell, Mathematician
The physicists most biased towards evolution only admit that “it could still be possible”…but wait since when do we assume that if something COULD be true even if it’s extraordinarily unlikely to be true that it really is true? Only with evolution, a belief protected by the media.
Using this reasoning I can assume that even if it’s extraordinarily unlikely that I would win the lottery 7 times since it COULD happen it will happen….what backwards nonsensical reasoning.
The nonsensical science fiction response from evolutionists shows how weak of a theory evolution really is.
The problem with their argument is that the Sun’s energy would only increase order if and only if there was a mechanism that used the Sun’s energy to increase order, otherwise the Sun’s energy may increase disorder!
Using the clown evolutionists reasoning we can conclude that “if you stay out in the Sun you won’t ever die or grow old”….LOL.
Evolutionists often claim that this criticism should mean that “babies can’t grow into adults” but being foolish with their science fiction ideas they ignore that “adults grow old and die” (because of entropy), the decrease in entropy is only very temporary with the overall increase in entropy still prevailing!
They also ignore the fact that in the past (and still today in many developing countries) infant mortality was one of the leading killers (because of entropy) meaning many babies never grew into adults.
Evolutionists also come up with other examples to protect their crackpot science fiction ideas, ignoring the fact that the overall trend is still an increase in entropy!
A temporary decrease in entropy is possible, but the overall trend is always with entropy increasing!
The 2nd law of thermodynamics has been experimentally verified as accurate billions of times whereas almost everything in evolution has never been experimentally verified as accurate…yet we are supposed to deny experimentally verification to protect this science fiction story called “evolution”!?
“The Entropy Law says that evolution dissipates the overall available energy for life on this planet. Our concept of evolution is the exact opposite. We believe that evolution somehow magically creates greater overall value and order on earth.” – Jeremy Rifkin, Evolutionist/anti-science fan
Evolutionists claim that anyone critical of evolution misuse the 2nd law of thermodynamics when in reality it is the evolutionists who have come up with a near “magical” science fiction idea to escape the 2nd law of thermodynamics!
Instead of physicists coming out to tell the public the unbiased objective truth on this matter they are forced to remain silent and protect the science fiction idea “evolution”.
Evolutionists are trying to stop physicists from seriously looking at evolution because they know that physicists if they unbiasedly look at it will come to the conclusion that evolution is impossible!
– What does physics predict?
Physics which has been experimentally verified as accurate billions and billions of times by engineers, predicts extinction, not evolution in almost every case.
Physics predicts that species would gradually become weaker and eventually die off (become extinct), the idea that a species would instead “evolve” into something superior and more complex fundamentally goes against physics.
Evolution would only be remotely possible in these cases:
– Short term micro-evolution (and then extinction)
– Species with extraordinarily high reproduction rates
This means the species that aren’t reproducing like quadrillions per day or week have a near ZERO chance of ever evolving into anything more complex and extremely high chance of either remaining the same, becoming weaker, or dying off.
So for a species like humans the chance that humans evolved is essentially zero. You have to assume that the common ancestor from which humans and chimpanzees came from somehow didn’t go extinct before it evolved, and also assume that all the ancestors of that species didn’t go extinct before it evolved, and so on, which is so extraordinarily unlikely we know that it never happened!
The fossil records and biology support what physics tells us, extinction, not evolution.
We also observe just what physics tells us about species gradually becoming weaker as well. Many ancient species were larger and stronger than their modern day versions. Instead of “evolving” into something more complex they became weaker over time just like physics predicts.
Biologists estimate that 99.9% of species went extinct in the past, just what physics predicts (Newman, Mark. A model of mass extinction. 1997. Journal of Theoretical Biology 189: 235-252).
– Biologists and evolutionists already agree with me, mostly
The overwhelming evidence in biology and physics supports extinction as opposed to evolution. Biologists already agree that extinction is far more likely for a species than evolution, they just claim that “somehow by some unknown means when there were mass extinctions in the past and nearly 100% of species died off life just started back later on” which of course is nonsense.
In modern times we observe extinctions going on everywhere.
Problems with the evidence evolutionists and evolutionist fans provide:
– Computer models aren’t evidence of anything
A lot of evolutionists use computer models to support their delusions…the problem with this is that you can use computer models to say that anything is true, they also ignore the computer models that match into physics (showing extinction rather than evolution).
With computer models and simulations you can say that perpetual motion machines are real.
Computer models aren’t equivalent to experimental verification of anything.
– Fossil evidence is weak, not objective, not empirically testable as accurate
Fossil evidence is often used as the strongest evidence that evolution is true, but a closer look shows that it’s just junk and not real evidence of anything.
Problems with the fossil evidence:
– Different biologists interpret the same fossils differently
– No DNA for most fossils, meaning nothing objective
– Are we actually observing evolution or extinction?
Since you can interpret the same fossils in different ways what biologists do is interpret fossils to fit into their invented models. When however real DNA is discovered usually more questions are raised than answers. This is what has happened time and time again.
For instance recently, a 400,000 year old human fossil thought to have definitely been homo heidelbergensis by biologists has now been revealed to actually be Denisovan when mtDNA was obtained, a real HUGE shock to biologists:
“The story of human evolution is not as simple as we would have liked to think,” Meyer said. “This result is a big question mark. In some sense, we know less about the origins of Neanderthals and Denisovans than we knew before.” – http://www.livescience.com/41679-oldest-human-dna-reveals-mysterious-homnid.html
Most certainly biologists would still have thought of this fossil as “homo heidelbergensis” it’s only because of the mtDNA sample (something objective) that are they forced to reclassify it.
This recent find (from December 2013) forces biologists to rewrite the model of human evolution since the earliest Denisovans were supposed to have been from 40,000 years ago, not 400,000 years ago.
That is just one example of how fossil evidence is weak without an objective verification (actual DNA).
Without an objective verification of something you can just make up a story or model and say that it’s true.
This is exactly what biologists and paleontologists do with fossil research, they just make up a story or model and try to fit the fossils into the models. Since usually there’s no way to objectively verify or empirically test the accuracy of their models they can basically say that anything is true.
DNA evidence is the most objective way to empirically test the accuracy of transitional fossil models, so I predict that in the future if more DNA is gathered from fossils that we can falsify evolution.
I’m very confident that many fossils labeled as “transitional” are not in reality, they are just extinctions of different species or other things misidentified that may look somewhat similar and are classified to fit into an invented model.
“Contrary to what most scientists write, the fossil record does not support the Darwinian theory of evolution because it is this theory (there are several) which we use to interpret the fossil record. By doing so, we are guilty of circular reasoning if we then say the fossil record supports this theory.” – Ronald R. West, Evolutionist/anti-science fan
Hopefully in the future if more DNA or mtDNA can be obtained from fossils we can completely falsify evolution!
Tactics used by evolutionists and the atheist-controlled media whenever evolution is criticized:
– Go by authority, incredulity, polls
Usually the media will say something like “most biologists believe in evolution therefore it must be accepted or is true”…the problem with this is just an appeal to authority.
Authority figures saying something is true isn’t equivalent to evidence that it’s true. What authority figures believe is only relevant if it’s accompanied with evidence.
Most biologists don’t understand anything about physics so who cares what they think? It’s just like someone making up a science fiction story about a perpetual motion machine.
If we go strictly by evidence evolution the theory as a whole is so extremely unlikely that I KNOW that it never happened.
– Label anyone who criticizes evolution as a Creationist / throw personal attacks
In order to prevent physicists, engineers, and others from criticizing evolution evolutionists have come up with a great anti-science strategy – just label anyone who criticizes evolution (something not experimentally verified as accurate) as a Creationist, crackpot, crazy, etc…these same people would have no issue with people criticizing General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Neuroscientists who say there’s no free-will, etc…even though these sciences have been experimentally verified as accurate whereas evolution has not!
Can you believe anyone could be that much of an anti-science fan?
One of the main principles in science is criticism and scrutiny, so why shouldn’t people be allowed to criticize evolution like how they are allowed to criticize anything else in science?
The reason why evolutionists discourage criticism and scrutiny of evolution is because they are anti-science (in opposition to science), know that their science fiction story WILL be proven wrong, and want evolution to be protected like a religious belief.
– Suppress embarrassing finds for evolutionists
Did you know that soft tissue was found in dinosaur fossils dated to 68 million – 150 million years ago (Schweitzer, Mary H.; Wittmeyer, Jennifer L.; Horner, John R. (2007). “Soft tissue and cellular preservation in vertebrate skeletal elements from the Cretaceous to the present”. Proc Biol Sci 274 (1607): 183–97. doi:10.1098/rspb.2006.3705. PMC 1685849. PMID 17148248.)?
You probably don’t because the media has suppressed this embarrassing find for evolutionists.
I remember reading an article a long time ago where someone said something like “if they find soft tissue in a dinosaur fossil evolution would be falsified” as a joke…this actually showed up, is real, has been peer-reviewed, but where is it in the media?
But this doesn’t actually falsify the accuracy of the dating techniques…evolutionists have come up with another pseudo-scientific science fiction idea that “somehow by some unknown means iron can preserve soft tissue for 68 million years”…which is obviously another nonsensical crackpot science fiction idea.
Microbiology (based on experimentation) tells us that soft tissue can only last a maximum of around 1 million years in the best conditions……microbiologists are told to remain silent about the doubts they have about the dating techniques because they know that the hypothesis that “the dating technique is inaccurate” will be ignored and thrown out because of the anti-science nature of evolutionists (the dating technique cannot be experimentally verified as accurate or even compared to other dating techniques for accuracy by the way).
The only reason that the hypothesis that “the dating technique is inaccurate” is thrown out is because with anything connected to evolution authority and incredulity matters more than hard evidence.
Dating techniques can’t be experimentally verified as accurate (we don’t have a time machine) but they can be compared to other dating techniques. The reasoning is that it’s extremely unlikely that different dating techniques would give the same date if the technique was inaccurate.
This reasoning works well for things dated to 1 millions years or more recent, you can compare the radiometric dating to other things like ice core dating or tree ring dating to check the accuracy.
But for anything dated as older than a few million years, like 68 millions years old, there’s no way to even compare it to other dating techniques to verify the accuracy of the dating!
So basically the radiometric calculated date of 68 million is essentially the same as a science fiction number, can’t be experimentally verified as accurate or even compared to other dating techniques for accuracy, and it also directly contradicts the physical evidence (soft tissue being found).
So will evolution be falsified in the future?
Of course it will. A theory as weak as evolution that doesn’t rely on many assumptions that are empirically tested as accurate will most certainly be overthrown in the future.
I predicted by the 2100s-2200s or earlier evolution will either be completely falsified or be radically changed (maybe new mechanisms or something?).
This science fiction story called “evolution” can’t be protected forever.
Eventually scientists are going to have to look at the objective facts instead of protecting evolution like a religious belief.
Conclusion: Based on the overwhelming evidence we have, evolution as we know it is so extraordinarily unlikely to have occurred we can be 100% certain that it never happened.
I’m 100% certain that this science fiction story called “evolution” is definitely wrong and false!
Some fools (atheists) want to know why I consider atheists as subhuman beings as opposed to actual humans. It’s nothing really personal, just impersonal.
Reasons for viewing atheists as fully subhuman:
- Atheists refuse to oppose racism and nationalism but voice up their position on things like gay rights and abortion rights
- 100% of all modern day atheist countries are extremely racist/nationalist beyond imagination (Denmark, Sweden, Latvia, Estonia, New Zealand, and every other atheist country)
- Atheists and the atheist-controlled media refuse to attack free-will believers like how they attack Creationists even though the scientific evidence telling us that free-will is non-existent is like a million times more concrete than the evidence supporting evolution(young Earth Creationists are more rational than free-will believers)
- Atheists refuse to acknowledge the undeniable historical consensus that religion directly caused the scientific revolution and insist on telling lies thoroughly debunked by historians (there aren’t any modern day historians that believe in the “Dark Ages” lie portrayed in the atheist-controlled media)
- Atheists refuse to acknowledge the undeniable historical fact that Faraday’s religion directly caused Maxwell’s Equations to come into existence, and instead lie and portray the opposite
- Atheists are trying to redefine the definition of science so that all that matters is authority and incredulity instead of empirical observations and valid reasoning, turning science into pseudoscience
- Atheists are trying to throw away a very important principle in science – criticism and scrutiny, and turn science into pseudoscience
- Atheists don’t allow people to question, scrutinize, and criticize atheistic arguments, they just breakdown and cry and interpret any criticism as “trolling”
- Atheists insist on telling many lies thoroughly debunked by historians and scientists (see my post “Common Lies Spread By Atheists”)
If atheists and the atheist community gave up on these things I would consider them as human or partially human.
If you go on YouTube you’ll see that the majority or at least half of the racist comments are from atheists even though there’s a low atheist population in the US. You have to realize that every atheist is in on this White Nationalism/racism thing together as one, that’s why they won’t come out to oppose racism and other racist atheists, they would only come out to try to stop people from criticizing racism thereby ensuring that the racism and nationalism thrives.
The dream of a Whites-only type of society is finally coming back. Back in 1988 no one in Sweden supported the Nazi party, it’s only 2010 that they gained support. Instead of calling it a “White Supremacy Organization” you just call it “Atheist Group” instead.
It’s just better to start viewing atheists as subhuman beings.
Although I can’t be 100% certain of everything, I can be 100% certain that – atheists block human progress, hold back science, and pose the greatest threat to mankind.
What atheists want to do is live backwards in the stone age with trees and grass, they hate science and technology.
Estonia (the most atheistic country) has 0 Nobel prizes.
Switzerland and Austria (the 1st and 2nd most religious Western countries) have the 1st and 2nd most Nobel prizes in science per capita.
After atheists took over science the late 1960s and early 1970s we immediately stopped finding cures, the life expectancy started growing slower, physics became stuck with empirically untestable hypotheses, science is turning into pseudoscience, and technology started growing slower.
Atheists hate technology and science and just believe in living in grass.
The only real solution to this issue is – the complete systematic extermination of atheism and atheistic beliefs.
Come come view atheists as subhuman, the enemy, the lowest!
I’m the King of argumentation logic, there’s nothing these fools (atheists) can do in response except for throw personal attacks when presented with undeniable historical and scientific facts.
In the beginning, middle, and end I win. They say humans like this only come around a few thousand years or so. Atheists are subhuman like animals they can be found anywhere.
Atheists should just give up, go home, and ignore the whole situation, they know that if they present their atheistic argument in front me I’ll break it up apart and make them look foolish (atheistic). They can go back to their agreeing-contest anti-science/atheist forums that don’t allow criticism, scrutiny, or free speech like how I do. They are always so afraid, weak, and useless.
There will never be any atheist-controlled forum or blog that allows free speech and free criticism and scrutiny like how I do, this is because the fools (atheists) know that if a statement really is true it will stand up to any amount of criticism, so they have to strongly discourage any type of criticism of atheistic arguments and beliefs knowing their ways to be false.
I know that my ways are true and will stand up to any amount of criticism, so I allow and encourage criticism, unlike the fools (atheists).
When I see an atheist crying in my mind I think “What a great joy, what a great joy it is that this low-life racist is now crying”.
When atheists throw personal attacks at me, it’s like nothing to me. It’s just like a dog, a cat, or some other domestic animal throwing personal attacks at me, I don’t feel anything. Since I view atheists as subhuman beings like domestic animals why should I become bothered?
The only way a non-white can get an atheist to support them is if they claim to be gay, then they would come out to support them then. The reason why the atheist community voices their position on gay rights but not racism is because they actually disagree with people who oppose gay rights, but they don’t disagree with people who support racism.
Come come view an atheist as subhuman!
In conclusion: Fuck atheists, fuck atheism, fuck the atheist community, and fuck anyone fuckin offended by any of my fuckin comments.
It’s the free market, free speech, free society!
Support socialism, support a Whites-only type of society!
We have not heard the atheist-controlled media come out to attack free-will believers like how they have attacked Creationists even though the gaps Creationists point out are much much bigger and more objective than the gaps that free-will believers point out, but why is this?
It’s because the atheist-controlled media doesn’t really care about evidence, science, or proof, they care about ridiculing religion. I’m sure if people had attacked evolution for non-religious reasons they wouldn’t have that much of an issue with it.
– Physics tells us that free-will MUST be non-existent, that free-will is a scientific impossibility, it’s impossible
– Physics doesn’t tell us that evolution MUST be true (or even anything close)….
The neuroscientific consensus is that free-will is non-existent.
I haven’t heard even the tiniest peep from the atheist-controlled media attacking free-will believers, have you? People can freely talk about and discuss free-will at Universities without much issue, but they cannot do the same with evolution, why? If you go to a University and say “I believe in free-will” or “that free-will could exist” nothing would happen, but if you don’t believe in evolution you could get fired.
If you visit anti-science/atheist forums they allow discussions of free-will with no issue, but not discussions of evolution, even though the scientific evidence telling us that free-will is non-existent is about a thousand times more objective and concrete than the evidence telling us that evolution occurred only through the known mechanisms, lol, what a joke the anti-science atheist clowns are.
The Scientific Evidence telling us that free-will is non-existent:
- Repeatable experiments (Libet’s experiment, RT experiments, Trans-cranial Magnetic Stimuli, etc..)
- Repeatable observations (drugs and chemical reactions altering consciousness)
- EVERYTHING in every single field of modern science (physics, chemistry, psychology, neuroscience, biology, medicine, etc…)
So the only way that free-will can exist is if somehow all of modern science is wrong.
Believing in free-will would require much more faith than believing that evolution is somehow false, but because of the atheist-controlled media most people wouldn’t know. I haven’t seen any documentaries in the media attacking free-will believers like how they attack Creationists, have you?
A Proof By Contradiction that free-will believers must not believe in science or care about evidence, or proof:
- If it’s true that you believe in science and care about evidence and proof then you would be around 100% certain that free-will is non-existent
- Believing in free-will contradicts this claim, proving that a free-will believer must NOT believe in science or care about evidence or proof
Now onto why the gaps free-will believers point out are insignificant and much smaller than the gaps Creationists point out.
Debunking the two main “gaps” free-will believers use:
- Circular reasoning: Quite common in free-will believing circles…they’ll say something like “free-will exists because I can choose to do [some action here]”…the only problem with this argument is that it’s circular reasoning.
You can’t conclude that you can choose unless you already assume that free-will exists. So this is just the same as saying “free-will exists because I assume that I have free-will and can choose”…which is basically equivalent to saying nothing.
If free-will was 100% non-existent we would conclude that “you feel inside that you can choose when in reality you always uncontrollably act”…this hypothesis of course matches every single piece of data perfectly. You don’t need to invoke the existence of free-will to explain anything.
Circular reasoning (concluding something by first assuming it) isn’t evidence of anything…
- Non-determinism: There’s three main issues with the infamous non-determinism argument from free-will believers:
- Neurons aren’t quantum particles or even close – Why would anyone believe that non-deterministic effects would apply to something as large as neurons (at least 18,000 times larger than most atoms)?
- Unpredictable will isn’t free-will - If we did somehow apply non-determinism to the brain it would be equivalent to saying that “someone who always has an uncontrollable spontaneous brain disorder has free-will”…how is that free-will?
- Challenging all conclusions drawn from determinism - If you believe that non-determinism can apply to the brain and neurons then you’re challenging basically all conclusions drawn from deterministic physics, like heliocentricism, General Relativity, radiocarbon dating, and every other conclusion drawn from deterministic physics. So do you free-will believers believe that we can throwout all the evidence telling us that heliocentricism is true (since it uses deterministic physics)? If you don’t, then why would you believe that we can throwout all the evidence telling us that free-will is non-existent?
There can’t be any free-will. When you keep questioning why you did something you’ll see that it’s ALWAYS traced back to an uncontrollable reaction, not a choice or any choosing.
Most free-will believers/atheists would ridicule young Earth Creationists who attack radiometric dating, but we can see that free-will is more of an outlandish claim!:
- Radiometric dating pre-assumes that determinism is true, that “a collection of atoms of a radioactive nuclide decays exponentially at a [PREDICTABLE] rate described by a parameter known as the half-life”
- A carbon atom is around 0.22 nm in diameter, compared to 0.004 mm – 0.1 mm for a neuron, so neurons are around 18,000 – 450,000 times larger than carbon atoms!
- If the fools (atheists) believe that non-determinism can apply to something as large as a neuron, they must certainly believe that it would apply to something as small as a collection of carbon atoms, meaning that radiometric dating would be invalid if they are correct!
- Believing that non-determinism would apply to things as large as neurons would completely negate the accuracy of radiometric dating (meaning the decay time is unpredictable)
Just a simple example of how the gaps Creationists point out are actually more rational and much bigger than the gaps that free-will believers point out. Is it more irrational to believe that non-deterministic effects would apply to something as small as a collection of atoms or to something as large as neurons?
Questions for free-will believers:
- If the scientific evidence supporting evolution is enough to convince you then the scientific evidence indicating that free-will is non-existent should be MORE than enough to convince you, so do you believe in evolution or not?
- If the scientific evidence indicating that free-will is non-existent isn’t enough to convince you then the scientific evidence supporting evolution shouldn’t be even close to close to enough to convince you, so do you believe in evolution or not?
- Do you believe that all of modern science in general is wrong (since if free-will exists it would mean so)?
- Do you have any other reason for believing in free-will besides the two main gaps I pointed out?
The gaps Creationists point out when attacking evolution are much bigger and more objective than the gaps that free-will believers point out. This is because physics doesn’t tell us that evolution must be true like how it tells us that free-will must be non-existent.
The story of how free-will is non-existent has remained consistent throughout scientific history (since the scientific revolution began!).
The story of how humans evolved keeps changing over and over again. This is because the scientific evidence supporting evolution is very weak in comparison to the evidence telling us that free-will is non-existent. If you read books on how humans evolved from the 1990s it’s very different from modern day books (2010s+) on how humans evolved, and that’s the change that occurred only in around 20 years. It’s only been since 2008 that Denisovans have even been discovered!
For instance, recently (December 2013) a 400,000 year-old Denisovan human fossil has been discovered in Europe distorting the previously accepted picture of human evolution. The mtDNA analysis shows the fossil to be Denisovan, which is real shock and hard to swallow, so hard that most biologists still insist that it must be homo heidelbergensis regardless of the mtDNA analysis.
“The story of human evolution is not as simple as we would have liked to think,” Meyer said. “This result is a big question mark. In some sense, we know less about the origins of Neanderthals and Denisovans than we knew before.” – http://www.livescience.com/41679-oldest-human-dna-reveals-mysterious-homnid.html
The reason why the story hasn’t been consistent for evolution is because the scientific evidence supporting evolution isn’t nearly as objective as the evidence telling us that free-will is non-existent (based on direct observations, experiments, and really everything in modern science).
Physics doesn’t tell us that evolution must have occurred just as modern day biologists believe, that’s why evolution is so much weaker than the non-existence of free-will.
- If you say you do believe in free-will, then this is basically equivalent to saying that you don’t believe in science or care about evidence or proof
- If you say you don’t believe in free-will, then you must already believe in some type of God
- If you say that you aren’t certain or sure if free-will exists, then you shouldn’t be certain of anything in science
So it’s just a lose/lose/lose situation for the atheists.
If we as a society gave up on the free-will delusion then:
- No one could blame anyone, knowing their actions to be uncontrollable
- It would be very easy to forgive and forget, not hold grudges, etc…
- We could look at the scientific causes of negative behavior and try to eliminate negative behavior rather than merely blaming people
- People could see the true innocence of all beings
The delusional belief in free-will causes so many issues in society, mainly causing people to unnecessarily blame each other.
- There can’t be any such thing as “free-will” (based on everything in modern science)
- The reason why the media has attacked Creationists has absolutely nothing to do with science, evidence, or proof, but with ridiculing religion
- The media hasn’t come out to attack free-will believers and is directly responsible for allowing the delusional belief in free-will to continue
- If you believe that free-will is debatable then you should believe that evolution and everything else in science is debatable
- The media and free-will believing atheists in general do not care about evidence, science, or proof, it was just a LIE
- Atheists in general are disgusting people, the nastiest people, the lowest form of life, animals, manimals, savages, subhuman beings
- The main block to human progress has always been atheists
I have some more questions for the fools (atheists), they are always so foolish (atheistic).
Here are my questions:
#10 – Why can’t atheists accept the historical consensus on Nazism and religion (that Nazism is either unrelated to or opposed to Christianity) instead of spreading lies debunked by historians?
#9 – Since there’s more scientific evidence contradicting the existence of free-will than there is contradicting the existence of God or supporting evolution, do you have an issue with people who believe in free-will?
#8 – Since abiogenesis lacks evidence and is unfalsifiable, do you have an issue with people who believe in abiogenesis?
#7 – Why can’t atheists accept the historical consensus that Faraday’s Sandemanian religion directly caused him to believe that magnetism, electricity, and light were linked as one which in turn caused James Clerk Maxwell to formulate Maxwell’s Equations (so religion is responsible for modern day electrical technology)?
#6 – Why after more than 6.5 years of this blog post ( http://www.atheistrev.com/2007/11/atheism-and-white-power.html ) being up hasn’t there not been even one anti-racist comment from an atheist there (100% of the comments from atheists support racism or White Nationalism) since it’s a NORMAL atheist blog site?
#5 – Why are 100% of all modern day atheist countries (like Denmark, Sweden, New Zealand, Latvia, Estonia, etc…) extremely racist and nationalist beyond imagination according to the studies done there?
#4 – Why can’t atheists accept that I falsified their popular claim that “atheist nations are peaceful” with examples of violent atheist countries like Estonia and North Korea?
#3 – Why does the atheist community remain silent in opposition towards racism and White Nationalism yet voice their position and speak up on things like gay rights and abortion rights?
#2 – Why aren’t there any atheist blog sites or forums that allow free and open criticism like how I do but instead interpret any type of criticism as “trolling” or something like that (an anti-science stance), since criticism and scrutiny is an extremely important principle in science?
#1 – Why can’t atheists accept the historical consensus that religion directly caused the scientific revolution and that there were no “Dark Ages” as portrayed in the delusional anti-historian atheist media?
The reason why criticism and scrutiny use to be an important principle in science prior to the fools (atheists) taking over is because if a statement really is true it will stand up to any amount of criticism. So the more people question, criticize, and scrutinize things the closer we come towards the truth.
But now that the fools (atheists) are taking over they’re trying to make everything about authority and incredulity, and eliminate criticism all together by interpreting any type of criticism as “trolling” thereby turning science into a pseudo-scientific popularity contest.
Overall, I hope to achieve my goal of getting society to view atheists as subhuman beings as opposed to actual human beings, not partially human, but fully subhuman.
It’s the free market free speech free society, it’s a terrible thing for a Whites-only type of society.
Support socialism, support a Whites-only type of society!
It looks like the value of evidence and what evidence means has become obscured now that the fools (atheists) have taken over science.
The fools (atheists) have tried to trick people into believing such lies as:
– “Lack of evidence indicates that a claim is false”
– “Absence of evidence is evidence of absence”
– “Assuming that things are false until proven true is valid”
– “You can’t prove a negative”
– “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”
Now to debunk these claims:
If anyone disagrees with anything I’ve said feel free to criticize, scrutinize, or question me. Unlike the fools (atheists) who strongly strongly discourage criticism and scrutiny of any claim they personally agree with by subjectively interpreting any type of criticism as “trolling” I encourage and invite criticism, this is because if a statement really is true then it would stand up to any amount of criticism. So the more people criticize, scrutinize, and question things the closer we come towards the truth.
– A mere lack of evidence by itself tells us nothing about if a hypothesis is true or false
– Contradictory evidence indicates that a claim is false
– Supporting evidence indicates that a claim is true
– Supporting and contradictory evidence can only exist if a hypothesis is empirically testable
– Evidence can only be relevant if a hypothesis is empirically testable
I think I would understand evolution and natural selection much better than many PhD biology students, so I’ll explain exactly how evolution and natural selection support ethnic discrimination.
Liberal atheist biologists all unanimously agree that Martin Luther King Jr. was just another dumb delusional creationist reverend trying to spread creationist propaganda.
Creationists believe that all humans are equal before God, but liberal atheists know that it’s just the creationist delusion.
Liberal atheist Richard Lynn published his book “Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis” in March 2006, explaining how evolution supports racism.
Perhaps the most celebrated liberal atheist biologist of all time, James D. Watson made his statements on how evolution supports racism:
“There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so”
“inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa because all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”
“there was a natural desire that all human beings should be equal but people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”
– Liberal atheist biologist, James D. Watson, DNA co-discoverer, October 2007
Liberal atheist biologists think that certain ethnic groups are more aggressive more prone to crime, that some can run faster than others, and that certain ethnic groups are more intelligent than others, but can these claims be justified with science?
The answer is definitely YES.
Let’s look at these claims:
- Certain ethnic groups are more aggressive, more prone to crime
According to many studies decision making and aggression are connected to brain activity in the frontal lobes. Studies have shown that adults have more brain activity in their frontal lobes than teenagers do when processing emotions (Begley, S. February 28, 2000. “Getting Inside a Teen Brain.” Newsweek. Brownlee, S. August 9, 1999. “Inside the Teen Brain.” U.S.News. Giedd, J.N. et al. October 1999. “Brain development during childhood and adolescence: a longitudinal MRI study.” Nature. Vol 2, No 10, pp. 861-863. Medical Data International. June 15, 1998. “Don’t Understand Teens? Researchers Try to Provide Insight.” Medical Industry Today.) leading to more rational decision making than teenagers .
But since different human ethnic groups have radically different brain sizes (varying from around 1100 cc – 1500 cc) there’s no doubt that this same implication that applies to adults versus teenagers would also apply to different ethnic groups.
Justifiable with science: YES
- Certain ethnic groups can run faster than others
“Sternlight said that she was amazed that whether people ran fast or slow, uphill or downhill, everyone had about the same swing time at top speed. Those running 14 mph and those running 27 mph both took between 0.37 and 0.4 second to swing one leg in front of the other.
What limits top speed, then, is the minimum time you take to swing your leg into position for the next step,” Sternlight concludes. “That’s evidently a fundamental limit for all humans. What determines how fast you can run is how fast you’re going when you reach that limit.” (Faster top running speeds are achieved with greater ground forces not more rapid leg movements.
Weyand PG1, Sternlight DB, Bellizzi MJ, Wright S. J Appl Physiol (1985). 2000 Nov;89(5):1991-9.).
Since different ethnic groups have different physical traits, undoubtedly just as how some ethnic groups are genetically taller than others there will be certain ethnic groups that genetically can run faster (achieve greater ground forces).
Justifiable with science: YES
- Certain ethnic groups are more intelligent than others
According to multiple studies brain size and intelligence are directly linked (Big-brained people are smarter: A meta-analysis of the relationship between in vivo brain volume and intelligence, MA McDaniel – Intelligence, 2005 – Elsevier).
According to multiple studies different ethnic groups have different brain sizes varying from 1212 cc – 1518 cc (Cultural Correlates with Cranial Capacity. Courtland L. Smith, Kenneth L. Beals, 1990. American Anthropologist.).
So since it’s been proven that different ethnic groups have radically different brain sizes that must mean that they also have different intelligence levels (assuming that brain size and intelligence are linked).
We already know with 100% certainty that brain size varies greatly from ethnic group to ethnic group.
Justifiable with science: YES
Debunking Creationist Myths:
- Since human beings are genetically very close this means they must all be very similar in terms of intelligence
Since brain size has been proven to be controlled by few genes this makes this argument irrelevant.
What genetics shows us is that very small gene changes have big effects in reality, even though they are very small. This means what matters in reality is the significance of the gene changes and not the genetic distance.
There can be two individuals genetically very distant that have similar brain sizes and two other individuals genetically very close with radically different brain sizes since brain size is controlled by few genes.
“there is less mtDNA difference between dogs, wolves, and coyotes than there is between the various ethnic groups of human beings, which are recognized as a single species” (Coppinger & Schneider, 1995)
The greyhound breed can run around 39-45 mph while the average dog breed can only run around 17 mph, even though dog breeds are genetically closer together than human ethnic groups are!
In short, being genetically close doesn’t indicate that intelligence would be similar since brain size is controlled by few genes.
- “Race” is a social construct
This one is actually true and not a myth.
It’s quite true that “race” is a social construct, just something made up, but the ethnic group isn’t a social construct, it really exists. The ethnic group is something objective that can be seen in genetics objectively.
But is saying that certain ethnic groups are more intelligent really that different from saying that certain “races” are more intelligent?
“Race” isn’t something scientific, but the ethnic group is, so evolution and natural selection would support ethnic discrimination.
- All human beings came from Africans therefore all different human ethnic groups have the same intelligence
Just another nonsensical argument.
Human beings coming from Africans, an ape-like ancestor, or bacteria doesn’t indicate that all human ethnic groups have the same intelligence levels as Africans, an ape-like ancestor, or bacteria.
This goes back to the genetic distance argument. What matters in reality is significance of the gene changes, not genetic distance or the ancestral root.
Eventually in time everyone decided to view Martin Luther King Jr. as just another delusional.
So what does this mean? Why does it matter?
There is no way to look at modern science and evolution in a non-discriminatory way, it’s impossible.
Just as how liberals believe that the government should take action based on what science tells us about global warming so too do liberal atheist biologists believe that the government should take action based on what science tells us about the ethnic groups.
In the future, once people finally accept science and evolution it seems that they decided to separate out ethnic groups or exterminate certain ethnic groups (I can’t tell which one happened, but it’s one or the other).
Human ethnic groups WILL be separated out by 2200 or earlier, all around the world!
The quicker people accept modern science and evolution the quicker this WILL occur.
That’s why it matters.
So enjoy these last days while you can!
One of my goals in life, well just for this year is to get society as a whole to start viewing atheists as fully subhuman.
I want society to consider atheists as fully subhuman as opposed to partially human or fully human and be viewed as lower than dogs, cats, rats, and other animals until they come out to oppose racism/nationalism because of the racism/nationalism directly caused by the atheist population.
We know in modern times that 100% of all atheist countries (New Zealand, Sweden, Denmark, Latvia, Estonia, etc…) are extremely racist/nationalist.
I predict that by the year 2030-2040 the US will become far more racist/nationalist because of the rise of atheism in the population (right now the US is one of the least racist countries in comparison to others).
Since my hypothesis that “the atheist population directly causes White Nationalism/Nazism/racism to thrive and grow” is empirically testable we can predict which countries are up next to become racist/nationalist/Nazi by looking at the rise in the atheist population: Australia, Canada, The Netherlands.
Now I explained in high details before exactly how the atheist population directly causes racism/Nationalism/Nazism to grow, it’s not correlation, it’s causation.
The proof is simple:
– There aren’t any mainstream Christian denominations that accept White Nationalism or Nazism.
This has been true throughout history, Christians believe that “all men hath one blood” and that Christianity is for the whole world not one nation.
So if there was no Christianity it would be almost guaranteed that there would be far less opposition towards White Nationalism/Nazism/racism.
What happens once the atheist population goes up is:
– There’s no more opposition towards racism/Nationalism/Nazism
– If you attempted to oppose racist/Nationalist/Nazi atheists other supposedly “non-racist” atheists would do everything in their power to stop you from opposing racism
– Racist/Nationalist/Nazi atheists are finally free to be as racist/nationalist/Nazi-ish as they want
After criticizing the atheist community for being racist not one atheist commented like this “I think that there really are racist atheists and I think that racism is terrible” or in some other manner opposing racism.
Instead the atheist comments all fit into these categories:
– Agreeing with and supporting racism/nationalism/Nazism
– Doing something to “stop people from criticizing atheists” for being racist/nationalist/Nazi-ish
How do atheists accomplish the feat of “stopping people from criticizing atheists for being racist/nationalist/Nazi-ish”, like this:
– Try to make atheists look good (many ways to do this)
– Change the subject to claiming that only Christians or Theists are racist
– Claim that nothing can ever be considered as evidence that atheists or atheist countries are racist/nationalist (and that anything can be considered as evidence that Theists are racist, LOL!)
– Claim that you can’t be racist and atheist or something else ridiculous and laughable (that’s been thoroughly falsified)
– Try to stop people from performing studies that atheists know would make atheists look racist and bad (like I’ve strongly suggested performing studies on ‘The Religious views of people who identify themselves as White Nationalist’ in the US, but the atheist community is trying to stop it)
– Throw personal attacks at me or others who criticize racist atheists
So from the responses from the atheists, we can see that the atheist community is concerned with: Making the atheist community look good (by stopping people from criticizing racist atheists), thereby allowing racist atheists to be as racist as they want.
Notice that on things like gay rights and abortion rights the atheist community comes out to voice their position, but on racism the atheist community remains silent in opposition towards racism or tries to stop people from opposing racist atheists.
There’s nothing preventing the atheist community from opposing racism and voicing their position like what they do on things like gay rights and abortion rights.
If you’re a White Nationalist/Nazi/racist AND an atheist, it’s like a dream come true, a win/win situation:
– There’s no opposition towards you
– If someone attempts to oppose you the supposedly non-racist atheists would do everything in their power to stop them
– You’re FREE to be as racist/nationalist/Nazi-ish as you want
If you can support the extreme far-left on social and fiscal issues you can bring back a Whites-only type of society!
Support the belief in evolution, oppose Israel, and support socialism, support a Whites-only type of society!
Back in 1988 no one in Sweden supported SD (the Nationalist party) or SVP (the Nazi party) they got 0%, they only gained power in the year 2010 in Sweden when the atheist population went up.
Tom Metzger founder of the Neo-Nazi movement White Aryan Resistance is an atheist, and Larry Darby former state director of the extremely popular atheist group “American Atheists” is a holocaust denier even though the US has only a 0.7% atheist population!
I hope I can encourage the world to do the right thing: View atheists as subhuman beings, the lowest form of life, the enemy, the liar, the fraud, the worst of all subhuman beings until they come out to oppose racism (probably never).
The racist/Nationalist atheist future is almost here!