Debunking the atheist/racist Muslim rape lie in Sweden
Atheists or racists have claimed that the rape and crime in Sweden is caused primarily by Muslims and because of the Muslim population in Sweden. Initially I thought this could have been the case, but upon investigating this claim I found it to be false.
So Muslims (and basically any non-white immigrant) are blamed for all the problems and crime in Sweden.
In Sweden, a liberal atheist country, throwing rocks at Somalians and beating Jews is just normal and common, and normally accepted by liberal atheist Swedes. I think Sweden’s new slogan should be “Come come beat a Jew, this is Sweden”. Beating Jews is like a national pastime in Sweden. If someone beats up a Jew in Sweden all the Swedes are just thinking “What’s the big deal? It’s just a Jew”. Don’t try wearing a kippah or yamaka or whatever in Sweden. Everyone in Sweden either is a Nazi, personally knows a Nazi, or knows someone who knows a Nazi because Nazism is popular in Sweden.
In order to find out if Muslims are actually responsible for the crime and rape in Sweden I looked at the Muslim population by country according to the October 2009 Pew Report and then I looked at rape statistics by country according to the U.N. statistics.
I only looked at European countries or countries made up of mostly Europeans knowing that atheists or racists would dismiss low rape rates in Muslim countries as being caused by a lack of reporting rapes.
UPDATE: After much discussion I’ve determined the actual cause of the reported rape rate in Sweden being high.
Here’s my hypothesis as to why Sweden’s reported rape rate is so high:
- Sweden’s new modified rape laws in 2005 made it so that the way rapes are counted is intentionally inflated
- The rate of reporting rapes in Sweden is very high
- Many reported rapes in Sweden are false reports caused by the extreme racism there
The evidence to support this hypothesis:
- An excerpt from this BBC News article demonstrates how laughable Sweden’s new rape laws are:
“In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record every case of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in the statistics,” she says.
“So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record – one victim, one type of crime, one record.” - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372
So this means that 1 report from 1 woman in Sweden could count as 300 or more “rapes” in their rape statistics, depending on how many times the victim claims they were “raped”.
- All of the objective crime statistics in Sweden that are difficult to falsely report like the murder rate and car thefts have decreased or remained constant
- Sweden’s murder rate in 2011 with more Muslim immigration has decreased to 0.86, it’s the lowest murder rate in decades for Sweden and one of the lowest in all of Sweden history, so Sweden’s murder rate is lower than all 50 US states in 2011 and almost every country in the entire world. The murder rate in Sweden was much higher in the 1990s when there was much less Muslim immigration. From the murder rate we know that the type of “rapes” and “crime” in Sweden must not be lethal (Source: http://www.bra.se/bra/brott–statistik/mord-och-drap.html)
- The reported number of homicides for Sweden in 2009 was 232, but the actual number was 92! So this means the actual homicide rate was more than 60% lower than the reported homicide rate. Over 100 of the reported homicides in Sweden in 2009 weren’t even about homicides, lol, can you believe that Swedes would stoop this low as to attempting to falsely report murders? (Source: http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_OFFPUB/KS-SF-12-006/EN/KS-SF-12-006-EN.PDF)
If people are willing to falsely report murders obviously they would be willing to falsely report a rape.
For a car theft how are you going to falsely report it? Are you going to make a up a non-existent license plate or hide your car? It’s difficult to falsely report a car theft.
For a homicide how are you going to falsely report it? Claim someone got killed even if they’re alive? It’s difficult to falsely report a homicide. Although you can falsely convict someone of murder.
But for a rape how are you going to falsely report it? Well it’s easy, even if there’s no DNA evidence or injuries in the case you can still win. Anyone can just make up a story about how they were raped, it’s arguably the very very easiest crime to falsely report.
- The main sign of a false rape report is no injuries and no DNA evidence. No injuries tells us that very little to no force was used and no DNA evidence tells us that there was no actual intercourse. So in cases like these you would just have to rely upon who you believe, the accused or the accuser. If there was more violence in Sweden we would expect the murder rate to increase, not decrease, so the murder rate is a real big blow to the Nazi movement in Sweden.
- Falsely reporting a rape is extremely easy, falsely reporting a homicide is extremely difficult, and the reported rape rate is the only crime statistic that’s radically changed in Sweden
- We know from history that in extremely racist societies falsely reporting rapes was common, here’s an example of one in Sweden:
“The [Swedish] woman later recanted her story about the alleged rape when she learned that a surveillance camera mounted in the taxi had recorded the couple leaving the vehicle without paying” – http://www.thelocal.se/14626/20080929/
- The murder rate isn’t calculated by the number of reports like how the reported rape rate is, it’s calculated by objective deaths, so the murder rate is a very objective statistic that’s difficult to distort and skew
- There were over 5,940 reported rapes in Sweden in 2009, but the Sweden Democrats talked about 114 out of 253 cases, 253 cases is more than 95% lower than the total number of reported rapes in Sweden, I’m guessing the number of cases is much lower because the “reported number” counts each alleged event (Source: http://www.thelocal.se/28580/20100825/#.UMR9MFVkyAg)
- According to Swedish journalist Ingrid Carlqvist “Most [Sweden] rape complaints are false. I base my conclusions on the hundreds of preliminary investigations and verdicts I’ve reviewed in my 30 years as a journalist” (Source: http://rixstep.com/2/1/20110701,00.shtml)
- Since the reported rape rate relies upon a country’s rape laws, the rate of reporting rapes, and since it’s extremely easy to falsely report a rape the reported rape rate is the very least objective of all crime statistics and gives us no objective data as to what’s occurring
Conclusion:
- The murder rate is really embarrassing so the Nazis/Swedes avoid mentioning it all costs
- Not being able to falsely report a murder like a rape must really pain the Nazi movement in Sweden
- Swedes are disgusting extremely racist people
- There’s no way Swedes and other racists are going to encourage people to look at the official statistics and reports published, they’re only going to encourage people to look at propaganda Nazi articles and YouTube videos
- The basic argument of the Nazis/Swedes and anyone who supports them is that “crime is up in Sweden except in every objective crime statistic that’s difficult to falsely report and distort”
- All that’s changed in Sweden is Sweden’s rape laws and the rate of reporting rape, this is why the murder rate has remained constant (actually lower now) in Sweden
If Swedes really believe that Muslim immigration is their problem (with a murder rate lower than all US states) then here’s what I suggest they do:
- Deport/ban all Muslim immigrants
- After all the Muslims are gone, bring in lots of non-white non-Muslim immigrants
- If there’s more actual crime in Sweden (you know in objective crime statistics) with non-white non-Muslim immigrants, without a target as easy as the Muslims what will Nazi Swedes do?
I would encourage Sweden to deport all existing Muslim immigrants and ban all Muslim immigration, if this does not occur then I would suggest that any Muslim immigrant living in Sweden just voluntarily leave Sweden. I would also suggest that non-white non-Muslims go live in Sweden.
It would be a great experiment to see what would happen in Sweden with a 0% Muslim population and lots of non-white non-Muslim immigrants. My guess is that then it wouldn’t matter if the murder rate was 10 times or 20 times higher in Sweden, it wouldn’t be international news or anything because non-Muslim immigrants are much harder targets.
Some other things to note:
- The worst rapist in Sweden was a White Swede, Thomas Quick, who allegedly rape and murdered 30 men
- New Zealand doesn’t have Sweden’s unique rape laws, so NZ’s reported rape rate is probably more real than Sweden’s, in NZ they have rape-murders like Jason Frandi, a White New Zealander who raped and murdered a tourist
- The European countries with the highest murder rates, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia have the least non-white immigration, lowest percentage of Muslims in Europe, and purest European stock. I’ve asked the people who complain about the supposed “Problem of Islam” in Europe as to why they don’t make websites or YouTube videos to help out Lithuanians, Latvians, and Estonians, but none of them have ever answered the question.
- Anyone who speaks to a Swede realizes how dumb and gullible they are, they don’t even know anything about their own country’s crime statistics
- Multiple studies and experiments have shown that White males are reported less often for all crime in general
- Since White males are reported less often for rape, if White males were reported as often as others at least 80% of the reported rapists in Sweden should be White males, this would be more consistent with the murder rate in Sweden
- If you report a White male for rape and there’s no injuries, you don’t have video camera evidence, 20 witnesses, or anything like that, and it’s not a child rape or drug rape then the jury will most likely just say “it’s no big deal, charges dropped”, you’ll just have to wait for the White male to go on to kill or seriously injure someone to get a conviction
- Society should really move towards opposing all rape in general regardless of who’s doing it
What a shame it is for the Nazi movement in Sweden that you can’t falsely report a murder like a rape
CASE CLOSED.
ANOTHER UPDATE: Since I’ve already completely embarrassed Nazi Swedes I guess I’ll embarrass some Nazi Norwegians.
The media in Norway and Sweden is controlled in a similar way that the media is controlled in many Islamic countries, so I suppose it’s not entirely their fault that they are so clueless about everything.
I’m sure you’ve probably heard the supposed claim that “ALL Assault rapes in 2010 in Norway come from Muslims or non-Western immigrants” or something like this on lots of articles and YouTube videos on the Internet.
It all sounds convincing up until you read the official Oslo police report published by the Norwegian police department:
“Assault rape only comprises 6 cases, however, and the same perpetrator was responsible for two of these (there were 5 unique suspects/persons seen in 6 reports).In 4 of the six reports (3 unique men) the perpetrator was from the Middle-East, in one assault rape the man was from Africa, and in another, from Asia. Claims that all assault rapes are committed by foreigners are thus supported by these figures, although the basis for the claims is small and the selection is special“
So all the articles and videos that use the term “ALL” are referring to 6 out of 6 cases.
But this isn’t the whole story, read on:
“If you extend the material to cover the 16 assault rape cases in which the person is unidentified, but where a description has been provided by the victim,another picture emerges: 8 of the perpetrators were of African/dark-skinned appearance, 5 were western/fair-haired/Nordic and 4 looked Asian.”
So counting assault rapes where the perpetrator was unidentified as well, it comes to a sum total of 22 cases (3 Middle-Easterners, 5 Asians, 9 Africans, and 5 Nordics).
Source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/76695373/Excerpt-From-Oslo-Police-District-Report-on-Rape
Original Document: https://www.politi.no/oslo/aktuelt/nyhetsarkiv/2011_05/Nyhet_9976.xml
So the articles and videos claiming that “all assault rapes in Norway in 2010 come from non-Western immigrants” should be renamed to:
“In a sum total of 6 assault rape cases where the Norwegian police identified the perpetrator, all of them were non-Western, in the 16 assault rape cases where the perpetrator was unidentified by the Norwegian police 100% of them were non-Middle Eastern and 5 of them were Nordic. Norway’s murder rate has decreased and is lower than even Sweden’s in 2010, but that’s not worth mentioning since you can’t falsely report a murder like a rape.”
Since when was a sum total of 6 cases a “rape epidemic”? A sum total of 6 assault rape cases in a population of nearly 5 million is embarrassingly low. We can point out lots of cities with populations of 100,000 or less with more than 6 assault rapes.
Norway’s murder rate in 2010 is 0.6, lower than all 50 US states and every single country in the entire world except for around 5-7 countries. There’s no way the Nazi atheists are going to encourage people to read the official statistics and reports, and the Nazi atheists will definitely avoid mentioning the murder rate at all cost.
A delusional atheist even told me that the official statistics were wrong, only what he saw on YouTube videos and blog sites was true. How can anyone be this gullible?
It would just be better for society if all European countries had banned and deported JUST Muslim immigrants. Muslims are just making things easier for the Nazis by being an easy target. All Muslims JUST GO HOME, leave Europe now! Non-white non-Muslims go live in Europe.
The best way for Swedes, Norwegians, Danes, and other atheist/racist countries to learn their lesson about telling lies would be if they just banned and deported all Muslim immigrants from Europe and then brought in lots of non-white non-Muslim immigrants. They shouldn’t even allow Muslims to visit these countries. A 0% Muslim population and lots of non-Muslim immigrants would severely damage the Nazi/atheist movement, their easy dream target would be gone.
So I support the people who want to ban/deport Muslims from any and every country. The Muslims are just distracting people away from what’s really going on.
Since Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have relatively low population sizes this means if their murder count goes up slightly the murder rate would really go up (yet they still all remain lower than all 50 US states).
So what would European countries do if they had a 0% Muslim population and lots of non-Muslim immigrants with a murder rate that’s 10 or 20 times higher than their current murder rates?
On another note the one who actually killed 77 people in Norway was the White non-Muslim Norwegian Breivik. The liberal atheist media was severely disappointed when they found out that the “terrorist” was not an Islamic terrorist but instead a White non-Muslim. As soon as they found out that it was a White non-Muslim it turned into a non-event after like 2 days and no one cared. Muslim terrorist attacks that kill far less than 77 people remain international news for years and years.
There are lots of web sites and things like that dedicated to ending the supposed “Muslim crime epidemic” in Europe (just non-violent rapes with no injuries). Are these people just trying to end Muslim crime and terrorism alone? What about non-Muslim killings and crime?
The countries in Europe with the highest murder rates (Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania) have the least non-white immigration, lowest percentage of Muslims, and purest European stock. I’ve repeatedly asked the same people who are attempting to end JUST Muslim crime alone (non-violent rapes with no injuries obviously the result of modified rape laws , the rate of reporting rapes going up, and false reports) why they don’t try to end all the crime in those countries, but still no one answered the question.
Wouldn’t it be great if Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia had murder rates as low as Norway’s and Sweden’s?
Just look at how primitive Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia are. These countries have accomplished almost nothing. The only good thing I can say about one of these countries (Lithuania) is Phoebus Levene.
Why can’t things be a big deal regardless of if a Muslim or non-Muslim did it? If all the people who did killings all around the world were Muslim we could get the entire world to oppose what they do.
I had a friend from Estonia, his parents were murdered when he was 5 years old, is it not a big deal because non-Muslims did it? I had another friend who’s Father was murdered and killed, is it not a big deal because non-Muslims did it?
Look at all the opposition towards the supposed Muslim crime in Europe (just the reported rape rate increasing after countries modified rape laws and the murder rate decreasing or remaining extremely low). Just imagine what the world would be like if only Muslims did crime, we could get the entire world to oppose what they were doing.
What a shame.
Sweden Muslim population: 2% (149,000 total)
Sweden 2008 rape per capita rate per 100,000: 46.6 (4,269 total rapes)
New Zealand Muslim population: 0.9% (37,000 total)
New Zealand 2008 rape per capita rate per 100,000: 31.3 (1,314 total rapes)
Greece Muslim population: 3% (310,000 total)
Greece 2008 rape per capita rate per 100,000: 2.0 (214 total rapes)
Switzerland Muslim population: 4.3% (323,000 total)
Switzerland 2008 rape per capita rate per 100,000: 8.6 (648 total rapes)
The much more religious countries like Greece and Switzerland some how have less rape per capita rates and rape total counts despite having much higher Muslim populations than the more atheistic countries like Sweden and New Zealand. New Zealanders, similar to Swedes are very racist and also blame all their problems on immigrants.
In New Zealand, a celebrated atheist country, throwing hamburger meat at Asians is normal and common. Basically 100% of male Asians who have lived in New Zealand have experienced racism at least once. The rape in New Zealand cannot be blamed on Arabs or Muslims so atheist New Zealanders will probably blame the rape on the hated immigrant group there, Asians.
New Zealand and Sweden (and nearly every other country with a high atheist population) have very high levels of female promiscuity. In New Zealand it’s just common to run into women who have slept with more than 50 guys. The average female in New Zealand has slept with 20 guys.
Perhaps high levels of promiscuity or a high atheist population is what actually causes high rape rates and not Muslims. If Muslims are responsible for high rape rates, then how can countries with much higher Muslim populations than Sweden or New Zealand have much lower rape rates and counts?
In conclusion atheists have a tendency to rape. These people called “atheists” are the worst people you’ll ever meet, the most racist form of life. People have to realize what happens to a country when uncivilized atheists take over a country. Everywhere atheists go they cause rape and racism, then try to blame it all on the immigrant group.

The issue isnt with Jews. It is the black West Indian and Africans, along with the Asian (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi) immigrants that are invevitably seeking welfare, pensions and medical services on the back of the taxpayers. They also find a gullible, dumb host country that they can effectively claim racism for a defence in rape, robberies and in the case of the Asians, scams. I have travelled extensively and found that all, absolutely all, Western countries that have allowed these people to immigrate have the exact same problems. These people use racism, multiculturalism and the benevolent legal systems to get away with horrendous crimes. The west must wake up before they are overwhelmed. You are allowing your daughters and wives to get assaulted and raped, the social system to be ripped off and soon, if not already, they will be enough of a voting block that your politicians wont have the guts to do anything.
Whoever wrote this, you need to get out more, rather than sitting at home writing inflamatory rubbish about subjects you are clearly not mature enough to comprehend. You cite lots of statistics and then completely misinterpret what they mean, then turn the whole thing into an atheist-bashing rant. Sadly, your comments show you have very little understanding of the nature of rape and its effect on the people reporting these crimes. I can forgive the poster above for thinking your a 16 year old Muslim boy (at least, that’s what I thought), because you misrepresent the data your giving which either suggests, you have some agenda, or you’re a bit stupid.
Although you start off using the rape-rate vs. murder-rate as an almost convincing argument (yes, the way they are reported makes them more or less subjective), you then spoil that by insisting that the murder rate would necessarily increase with the rape-rate. That is definitely NOT the case. Although both rape and murder are born out of hatred, a rapist is not necessarily born out of the same circumstances as a murderer (obviously some people commit both rape and murder, but they are a relatively tiny minority). The other post above is correct, the rape of somebody based on the rapist’s belief that their victim is inferior due to their cultural/ethnic background IS different to other rapes. It’s no better or worse – the effect on the poor person being raped is still horrendous. But if you’re posting about who/what to blame for these crimes you have to bear in mind the perpetrators’ cultural background because, obviously, if they’ve spent their whole lives being brought up to think a certain way about certain women it could make all the difference between being able to justify what they’re doing in their own minds, or not.
Although I hate these awful right wing, racist groups, there’s an element of truth in what they are saying. Western muslims, in my experience, are brought up in a community where sex before marriage is prohibited, yet where utter contempt for western women and their behaviour is usually fostered. Obviously there are rapists of all races/religions, but the fact is, the vast majority of white westerners are brought up to think the sexes are equal, sex between consenting partners is great, and rape is totally wrong. Western muslims are brought up in very different circumstances. Here you have sexually frustrated young mysogynists prohibited from sex with girls from their own community, and yet surrounded by promiscuous girls from a supposedly inferior and wicked subclass. This is clearly a breeding ground for sexually motivated crime.
You seemed determined from the outset to decide that Muslims were no more likely to commit rape than anyone else. What you don’t mention in your “statistics”, which undermines their credibility, are some of the other contributing factors, which seriously affect the reporting of these crimes.
1. Which of the people reporting these crimes knew their attacker? What proportion of rapes go unreported? What kind of rapes go unreported (date-rapes, domestic rapes etc where the person knows their attackers identity?) Particularly important in relation to your Norway statistics where more cases had an unidentified attacker.
2. How many of the people reporting these crimes in Sweden were reporting 300 rapes at a time? Really that many? If only one of them, for instance, was reporting multiple domestic rapes at the hands of their husband and all of the rest of the them were reporting individual incidences of rape, it would make your argument about the reporting methods being completely to blame for the spike in rapes look a bit stupid.
3. Your comments on the numbers sound as if you are comparing like for like. You’re not. You can’t say, for example, that 3 in 4 rapes committed by whites (or whatever it was you said) shows that more whites commit rape than non-white when only a relatively tiny percentage of the population is non-white. Whichever western country you’re looking at, the percentage of muslims is very small compared to the non-muslim population. If , for example, only 1 in 50 people (2%) is a muslim, and somewhere up to half of those are women and children and probably won’t rape anyone, yet 1 in 4 rapes (25%) is committed by a muslim, this obviously would show that you’d completely missed the point of the statistics you were quoting, if you then tried to say rapists are no more common among muslims than non-muslims.
4. Your coments seem to show you think Asians, Africans, Muslims etc are mutually exclusive groups. In fact most of the muslims where I live are from one of the countries of Asia.
I do apologise for not bothering to scroll up and find the exact statistics you used – I must admit I ended up skim-reading some of what you wrote because it was obviously uninformed and also very badly written. When you’re a few years older (either mentally or physically) and have written something wortha more considered response, I will happily give it. If I were your teacher, and I were in a generous mood, you’d probably get an F for the content, and an F for the spelling, grammar, and punctuation. At least do the general public the courtesy of proof-reading the crap you write before you decide to air your confused views.
If I’ve missed the point here and everything you’ve written was an attempt to write the most stupid and pointlessly argumentative rubbish possible to get more responses, I would suggest you give the Samaritans a call (or whatever similar organisation helps lonely and mentally fragile people in your country).
To save you wasting your time on irrelavent rants:
I am not an atheist. I am not a rapist. I do not follow any particular religion or belong to any political party or hold any particularly extreme political views on anything. I just chanced upon this site while looking for something else and thought your comments were stupid. Get a girlfriend and a job. I will never come back here, so if you ask any questions, please make them rhetorical and for the benfit of someone else.
I was trying to figure out how much credibility to give you as I read your arguments until I came to the part about New Zealand.
I am a NZer (now living in Canada). I am from Auckland – the largest city with a sizable Asian population. My high-school was was something like 30% Asian. (Mostly Korean and Chinese.)
None of my Asian friends have experienced having “hamburger meat” thrown at them (wtf???), and I have never witnessed it or even heard of it until I read this post.
The worst Asian racism I’ve ever seen was perhaps people imitating them speaking in a mocking way when I was in high-school – kids will be kids. And the Asians – especially the Koreans – were more than willing to defend themselves. (Anyone who knows Koreans knows they don’t back down from a fight! They are tough.)
In low socioeconomic areas there have been some Asian targeted assaults. But assaults/crime in such areas will of course be more prevalent in general. However I can assure you the vast majority of Asians in NZ have never experienced that sort of racism. They’re generally an accepted part of NZ society.
Consider: if NZ is so terrible for Asians, why do they immigrate there in such large numbers? It’s not as if they’re desperate for asylum or anything like that.
You are correct however about NZ women being promiscuous. NZ is a pioneer in women’s rights (first country to introduce women’s suffrage in 1893.) However this has a downside in that it creates extensive government support for single mothers which is clearly not a healthy direction for any country as the state replaces the father. (This is the case in maybe all the liberal democracies and a significant weakness of the system.)
However be careful about hastily drawing conclusions about places and people you don’t have first hand experience with.
Oh and I’ve never heard of rapes being blamed on Asians… Asians are generally considered less inclined toward criminal behavior.
Muslim Nazi Collaborators inspired the holocaust – The Grand Mufti :
Ahmed Huber recounted a conversation with Mohammad Amin al-Husseini: the Nazi ideology was an inspiration from Islam:
http://islamonazism.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/ahmed-huber-recounted-a-conversation-he-had-with-mohammad-amin-al-husseini/
There are quotes from both sides saying nazis were christians and others saying they appealed to the occult and others they denied belief in a deity. However, their actions were comparable to how Jews had been treated by catholics and protestants for centuries (Martin Luther was very anti semitic). The nazis enemies were communists, jews, homosexuals, handicapped and gypsies. These were also the enemies of the vatican. The Ustashe who were allied with the Nazis were undoubtedly catholic and they were so brutal that the nazi officers complained to their superiors about being associated with them.
Although individual catholic bishops were open supporters(in some cases, enthusiastic supporters), The Holy Churches’ and the Pope’s association with and appeasement to Hitler and the Nazi’s is ultimately unknown. Among the appeasements, all Catholic priests in Germany were ordered by the Pope to swear aligence to the Nazi Government. What threats against the German Catholics in the population (they were 40% of Germany at the time, particularly in Bavaria and the rest of the south). It is known tht 2,700 christian ministers during the Nazi years. Of these, 2,700 ministers, 2,600 were Catholic priests. 2,000 of which are documented as to have been killed by the Nazi’s. Tht would be a minimum of 1,900 Catholic priest killed by Nazi’s. The bulk if which happened after the break down of the Pope’s co-operation with Hitler. So, to call the Nazi’s even Catholic Church Sympothizers would be a stretch of reason.
Sorry, tht should read tht it is known tht 2,700 christian ministers were interned during the Nazi years.
Communists were allied with nazis during half the Second World War. During those years, the nazis persecuted Christians ( Jehovah Witnesses , Catholics and Protestants ) . Most of the Gypsies and the handicapped they exterminated were Christians too. During the same time, Stalin persecuted Christians and Hitler never tried to save any Christian threatened by his atheist allied.
Violence against Jews is mainly a muslim and christian activity. 6 million Jews were killed by the christian nazis of ww2, i believed they called them christ killers. Thanks for existing though, you make atheists look good, your a champ.
PS If only one religious group could remain on earth I would hope it would be the Jewish people. They’re intelligent and educated at least. Christians are stupid and muslims are savage. Keep up the posts I will try to promote it for the both of us. God bless XD
Hi there,
I don’t oppose violence against Jews only, I oppose all violence in general against all. We can really point out almost any group of people in the past murdering lots of people.
But as for the Nazis being Christians you are completely wrong. During Hitler’s time Germany was an extremely religious Christian country so it would’ve been political suicide for the Nazis to openly oppose Christianity.
Even during Hitler’s time when Germany had been an extremely religious Christian country:
- Martin Bormann (a Nazi official nearly equivalent to Hitler in terms of power) said “National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable”
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Bormann.html
- Alfred Rosenberg, the Nazi party philosopher in his 30-point program for the National Church stated:
(Shirer, William Lawrence (1990). The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany. New York: Simon and Schuste)
- The Nazis had to fight off Churches (as every historical source indicates)
- If you talk to modern day Nazis like Tom Metzger they will also tell you about how much they hate and despise Christianity
How are Christians stupid since Switzerland (one of the most religious countries in Europe) has more than 3 times as many scientific Nobel laureates than Israel does with a population size almost equal to Israel’s?
The Swiss seem to be smarter than Jews.
Switzerland is where the super-genius super-religious mathematician Leonhard Euler is from:
“Since the fabric of the universe is most perfect and the work of a most wise Creator, nothing at all takes place in the universe in which some rule of maximum or minimum does not appear” – Leonhard Euler
Euler published more than 900 papers and is the most prolific mathematician in history!
I think in modern times most Muslim countries do have some savage laws, but the Muslims still contributed significantly to causing the scientific revolution (mostly by preserving Greek texts and importing some texts from India)
I think there are many negative things about the Islamic religion, but we can point out many negative things about almost any religion, there are some positive things in Muhammad’s sayings like:
“Do you love your Creator? Love your fellow-beings first”
“Women are the twin halves of men”
“Adhere to truth, for truth leads to good deeds and good deeds leads him who does them to paradise”
“Who is the most favored of God? He from whom the greatest good cometh to His creatures”
“They will enter the Garden of Bliss who have a true, pure, and merciful heart”
“Ye will not enter paradise until ye have faith, and ye will not complete your faith until ye love one another”
So if Muslims could give up on Sharia Law and terrorism and stuff I don’t think I would have much problem with them.
Jews were killed by the Nazi’s not because of Christianity, but because of Hitler’s inspiration from Islam. Jewish persecution is solely an invention by Islam for 1400 centuries, and a racist activity that seeks nothing else but to exterminate an innocent people. There was no animosity at all between Christians and jews for hundreds of years. It is Muslims who created that conflict worldwide.
This isn’t true.
It’s true that Muslims and Nazis have a lot in common in hating Jews and Israel.
But historical sources clearly show that Nazism has it’s origins in Paganism.
The Nazis viewed Christianity and Islam as Semitic religions just the same as Judaism.
Nazi officials like Himmler, Martin Bormann, and Alfred Rosenberg all despised and hated Christianity.
During Hitler’s time Christianity was the Nazi’s biggest issue, all mainstream Christian denominations opposed White Nationalism just as how in modern times all mainstream Christian denominations oppose White Nationalism.
Because of this Alfred Rosenberg (the Nazi party philosopher) had to invent a new form of Christianity called “Positive Christianity” which of course is not accepted by any mainstream Christian denomination.
Because Christian Churches strongly opposed Nazism Alfred Rosenberg wrote in this 30-point program:
“- The National Church is determined to exterminate foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800.
- The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible.
- The National Church will clear away from its altars all Crucifixes, Bibles and pictures of Saints”
A Hitler youth marching song indicates the Nazi’s attitude towards Christianity:
“We follow not Christ, but Horst Wessel,
Away with incense and Holy Water,
The Church can go hang for all we care,
The Swastika brings salvation on Earth.” (Grunberger, A Social History)
The Nazi leader Heinrich Himmler was probably the most anti-Christian:
“We will have to deal with Christianity in a tougher way than hitherto. We must settle accounts with this Christianity, this greatest of plagues that could have happened to us in our history, which has weakened us in every conflict. If our generation does not do it then it would I think drag on for a long time. We must overcome it within ourselves. Today at Heydrich’s funeral I intentionally expressed in my oration from my deepest conviction a belief in God, a belief in fate, in the ancient one as I called him – that is the old Germanic word: Wralda” – Heinrich Himmler
But with a high atheist population the Nazis don’t need to fight off Christian Churches because there are none.
So the best thing that ever happened to the Nazi movement is the atheist and non-religious population rising.
This post is so stupid. Mentioning average new Zealand woman sleeps with average twenty guys. Lol. How evil, so much more evil than Muslims hate raping non Muslim women or Christians molesting their own children. As long as the women don’t consent it is okay, sex is more evil than rape according to theists. Lol they wander why they live in trailer parks and wear beer stained singlets while we wear suits and live in houses. Right wing Nazis is a synonym for conservative Christian. It’s in fact the sissy atheist liberals defending the sub humans in Sweden but then the loser who wrote this article obviously isn’t interested in facts after all he is a theist. Poor fellow is probably still a virgin, I’ve popped Muslim and Christian girls cherries. Get laid and you won’t worry so much about us atheists enjoying life while you write blogs on the internet.
You sound like you must have raped lots of people in your lifetime.
Your basic argument is this “Nothing matters I just say that Muslims are raping”, can’t you come up with anything better like an actual argument or objective evidence?
I’ve provided actual arguments and reasons, can you explain why every objective crime statistic that’s difficult to falsely report in Sweden has remained constant or decreased?
I guess people should know why I consider atheists to be subhuman in terms of intelligence. Atheists are just dumb gullible people who get all their information from cartoon shows and TV.
Atheists actually believe in just living in the stone age with just food, water, and shelter, and don’t believe in science and technology.
You’re just a pussy atheist, all liberals atheists are racists just face the facts.
Itsnobody, You seem to be a bit confused as always. “just fact the facts”— You see, how that expression works is that first You have to actual present “facts”. You don’t present any fact but simply present “claims”. You Claim “all atheists are rapists” many times but provide no facts to prove this claim. I am an atheist but have never raped anyone. That is a fact. Thus, demonstrating to me that your claim is false, and, indeed, not a fact at all!
I dont know what makes you think im a liberal, i despise liberals and right wing nazis like yourself the same. All groups have rapists, dont put words in my mouth.
“New Zealand and Sweden (and nearly every other country with a high atheist population) have very high levels of female promiscuity. In New Zealand it’s just common to run into women who have slept with more than 50 guys. The average female in New Zealand has slept with 20 guys.
Perhaps high levels of promiscuity or a high atheist population is what actually causes high rape rates and not Muslims. If Muslims are responsible for high rape rates, then how can countries with much higher Muslim populations than Sweden or New Zealand have much lower rape rates and counts?”
I see you use provocative and non intellectual insulting (atheists have a tendency to rape, they are vile people) statements which I wont get upset at because I know you are probably pissed off and just trying to upset people. You seem like you do your research and have a brain can I ask the reason you think people having lots of sex is bad? Why would you attribute rape to female promiscuity in these countries and not: the higher status of women?
for instance, I had a friend who studied law and said he doesnt know why watching child porn is illegal, if people watch it they wont go out and molest children. He used Japan’s ‘rape porn’ culture as an example and said Japan has a very low rape rate. (Japan atheist country predominately)
I told him the two may have nothing to do with each other.
I explained to him the rape rate is the rate at which rapes are reported, women’s position in Japanese culture is still second class citizens and it may be the case Japanese women would not report rape as often as women in countries where women have a higher status.
Do you really think that there is less rapes per capita in Nigeria, Turkey or Brazil as opposed to Sweden, UK, France.
Or is it that women can report the crimes in these countries easier than the former, or maybe they think (due to the religious mindset of Muslim and Christian culture) that they deserved to be raped and thus dont report it.
Another question, why is the muslim rape myth an atheist liberal agenda? That’s not rhetorical. I dont know where you are from but I know that in America, and other western countries atheist liberals are the ones who defend the immigrants through militant political correctness while the christian right wing are opposed to the threat. Look up Dennis Prager the american right wing talkshow host.
Reason I ask this if you have made it out to be an atheist issue for your own agenda or do you have facts to back it up?
Lastly, myself personally despise all rapists. However, I get more upset at muslims raping non-muslims for a specific reason: based on my personal experience with muslims I have associated with I have had, is that they dont rape the non-muslim women because they are sick and like to hurt women as is the case with your everyday rapists. They do it because they beleive all non-mulsim women are whore’s and sluts because they dont wear burkahs etc. That includes christian, atheist, hindu women etc. They think they are above others and treat them thusly. Most Christians dont have this mindset, they can be judgmental but they try to help not hurt those who are beneath them.
That reason the rape makes my blood boil, imagine if one of your female family members got raped. Bad as it is, then imagine when in court the guy spits at the judge and calls all non-muslim women whores and he can rape as many as he wants, laughs at you and your female family member in court and HE ISNT CRAZY, just thinks he has the right to do what he did because the rest of us are scum. Sounds like the Nazis doesn’t it?
(this actually happened in Sydney Australia where a group of Lebanese muslims gang raped an Australian girl and the leader acted this way in court. Glad to say he got 55 years in prison)
If a white guy rapes a black girl for the same reason I feel the same. If atheists do it to Christians I would feel the same.
What’s your thoughts?
Keep in mind if you are going to respond like you have been to people I will know you arent serious about any of this and are just having fun with people, I wont respond. If you are serious then reply seriously because the only reason Im opposed to religious belief is how it poisons the image of sex. I believe all the other violence, science hindrance and so forth arguments against religion are transparent.
Thanks for demonstrating your hilariously stupid nature.
I guess it’s time for me to kill off your arguments.
You label the Nazis as right-wing because you just claim they are right-wing. There’s no actual authentic reason to label the Nazis as right-wing.
The left-wing fiscally and socially fits in with Nazism perfectly. The far-right constitutional type government limiting the power the government has is almost the exact opposite of the Nazi party.
Many atheists I know really are rapists, I saw this White atheist trying to a rape a girl in the hallway in high school. I guess it’s okay to you because “he’s raping for non-Muslim reasons”, right? How hilariously stupid.
Why are things okay because they’re doing it for non-Muslim reasons? I just don’t get this reasoning.
Claiming that being more promiscuous increases your chances of getting raped is just like someone claiming that speeding a lot increases your chances of getting into a car accident. Why do you find this statement to be wrong for?
I guess all the people who claim that being more promiscuous increases your chances of getting an STD are also wrong, lol.
The reported rape rate is the very least objective of all crime statistics as I’ve stated since it relies upon a country’s rape laws, the rate of reporting rapes, and is extremely easy to falsely report.
I would guess that the countries with the higher murder rates would have higher actual rape rates, regardless of what their reported rape rate is.
No one knows the actual number of rapes in a country, just the number of reports.
All of the people I know in the US who were raped were raped by White males, they were embarrassed about it and never reported it (not because they felt that they deserved be rape because of Islam or Christianity or whatever).
This is not true. The far-left opposes Israel and liberal states in the US are the ones with less blacks and more Whites.
The old conservatives were known as the anti-racist party just relatively recently in history and there’s really nothing at all in the conservative base that fits in with White Nationalism.
The Christian right-wing only opposes illegal immigration, not legal immigration, and not all immigration in general like White Nationalists do.
All mainstream forms of Christianity actually encourage immigration and encourage people to support Israel, this is the main reason why White Nationalists despise Christianity.
The free market and free speech in particular just don’t fit in with racism or anti-immigration.
The facts clearly show that the main reason why in modern times 100% of all liberal atheist countries are extremely racist is specifically because of a lack of religion. The less religious people are the less opposition there is towards White Nationalism, just think about it, stupid.
This comment is the main reason why I label you as a hilariously stupid person.
You’re just arguing that things aren’t a big deal if people are doing it for “non-Muslim reasons”. How laughable.
So let me get this straight, a Christian or atheist rapes and murders someone for non-Muslim reasons not because they are a non-Christian or whatever and it’s no big deal? What a joke. So if your sister or daughter had been raped and murdered by a non-Muslim and person didn’t do it for Muslim reasons and the person in court feels guilty and remorseful that means it’s no big deal.
What hilariously stupid reasoning.
On the other hand if there’s like 1 case with a Muslim who non-violently rapes someone so that there’s no injuries or DNA evidence and they supposedly justify it with Islam, man that’s international news and a big deal! That’s what we have to oppose. We’re trying to end JUST Muslim crime (the non-violent rapes with no injuries).
Your stupidity level is off the charts.
I would feel the same regardless of the ethnicity or religion of the person who did it. You would only feel bad if it was a Muslim? How disgusting.
I heard about the Sydney gang rapes. There were no injuries or murders in that case and some of the “rapes” were semi-consensual (the woman agreed to smoke cannabis with the men). This story became international news and was viewed as a big deal, even though there were no injuries in the case and “rapes” were almost consensual.
I wonder what would happen if some females were to report a bunch of White males for rape in the exact same manner as the Sydney gang rapes, there’s no injuries and the females claim that they were gang raped by them. I know what would happen, the White jury would say “Since it’s White males and there’s no injuries and the women agreed to smoke cannabis with the men, it’s no big deal”. Am I wrong?
Tell the truth, isn’t it true that if White males had done the exact same thing as what occurred in the Sydney gang rapes that it would NEVER be international news, be viewed as a non-event and no one would really care? Isn’t it true?
If the Sydney gang rapists had been White non-Muslim males it wouldn’t even be a blip on the news.
White male rape cases are ONLY news if there’s serious injuries or killings involved.
If you report White males for rape and there’s no injuries, it’s not a young child rape, drug rape, and you don’t have video camera evidence or something then good luck getting a conviction!
To get a conviction with a White male rape case you have to wait for serious injuries or deaths to occur, that’s it.
Let’s compare the Sydney gang rapes (6 rapes that involved no type of injuries or deaths) to these White Australian rape cases:
- Martin Leach: bound, gagged and stabbed Charmaine Ariet and bound, gagged, stabbed, raped and slit the throat of her cousin Janice Carnegie before burying their bodies in a gully at Berry Springs.
- Robert Arthur Selby Lowe, convicted in 1994 of the sexual assault and murder of six year-old Sheree Beasley at Rosebud on 29 July 1991
- David Birnie, rape and murder of four women in Perth in 1986
The Australian Sydney gang rapes is international news (that involved no injuries or deaths), the Birnie rapes where four women were KILLED is not even mentioned in the news.
I guess you can tell the victim’s family members who had their daughters raped and murdered that “it’s no big deal because White non-Muslims did it, they’re not doing it because of Islam”, how disgusting.
The simple fact is White males rape more often and are usually only convicted and found out when there’s serious injuries or deaths involved.
You’re contradicting yourself now, you just claimed that you feel differently when Muslims do the rapes. So you’re changing your position?
I’m having fun and being serious at the same time! Just read my responses how I provide actual reasons to support my statements, unlike the atheists responses.
Most of the atheist responses are something like this “Muslims are just raping so that there’s no injuries or DNA evidence, and they’re not doing any other crime that’s difficult to falsely report, and the official crime statistics are just lying”
The ones who must be joking are the atheists.
If I’m wrong then come on atheists, go ahead and explain why the only crime statistic that’s radically changed is the reported rape rate after Sweden modified their rape laws. No one answered the question. Every single piece of evidence clearly indicates that all that’s changed in Sweden is Sweden’s rape laws, and the rate of reporting rapes.
Atheists just can’t provide valid reasons and observations to support their assertions like how I do.
never said it is okay because it is non muslim reasons. Im saying it is far worse for someone to rape another for no other reason than they are from different backgrounds. If whites raped blacks or atheists raped christians i would feel the same. Any ordinary rapist is a sicko but when one thinks he has the right to do things over others it makes a big difference.
Also nazis were right wing as was soviet union, the extreme right is totalitarianism, the extreme left is anarchy I dont know who told you otherwise. Anyway, since you continue respond childishly I wont continue to talk to you, cant learn anything off people who cant communicate maturely, best of luck with your mythology
How is it far worse? So someone rapes someone for some other reason (not because they are from a different background) and it’s no big deal to you? What a joke.
You’re just an idiot.
If this is the case then please contact the White family members victims who had their daughters raped and murdered by other Whites and tell them it’s no big deal because the rapists are doing it because they’re just “sickos”, not because they’re from a different background.
That helps the situation.
Why does it matter what reason a rapist uses to justify their actions for? Why doesn’t it only matter that they are raping?
So you’re saying you don’t really care about rape, you care about ending only rapes done by rapists who justify it with nothing else than the victim being from a different background.
The extreme far left is totalitarianism dumbass, socialism is the extreme left. The extreme right is anarchy, like how libertarianism is closer to anarchy than say the modern day liberals. You have it backwards. You obviously don’t have much education in the politics.
The far left fiscally = More government control, more government power, more government intervention
The far right fiscally = Less government control, less government power, less government intervention
This can be confirmed by basically any source, it’s just basic politics.
Using your reasoning we could conclude that pro-gun rights people are far left and that those who oppose gun rights and support gun control are far right. You just have it backwards.
The one who’s responding childishly is you, your arguments don’t make any sense, and I can only conclude that you’re an idiot.
Every time you lose the debate you just throw personal attacks at me and make up intentional lies.
Your name speaksd for itself. You really are a nobody with no brain. Your statistics are a joke and if you said them to a real new zealander you would be smashed in the face and kicked like a dog on the ground. Maybe that happened to you, you angry sad little muslim cunt.
Oh is this rapist New Zealander afraid of me?
The only problem is I’m not a Muslim and the statistics are all official, how is it a joke? You can research and check my background and see that I’m not a Muslim, if you want to. I also don’t personally know many Muslims, and am not an Arab or from a Muslim country. Atheists just accuse anyone who criticizes them as being a Jew or a Muslim.
I guess atheists are subhuman in terms of intelligence.
Their only response is to throw personal attacks at the person (ad hominems) or accuse the person of being a Jew or a Muslim.
Here’s some statistics:
- In 2011 Sweden’s murder rate is 0.86, which means Sweden’s murder rate is lower than all 50 US states in 2011,
- In 2011, there isn’t even one US state with a lower murder rate than Sweden’s, not even one
- In 2011, Sweden’s murder rate is lower than almost every country in the entire world!
- In 2011, Sweden’s murder rate is one of the lowest in Sweden history, so this means Sweden’s murder rate has decreased with more immigration
Sources: http://www.bra.se/bra/brott–statistik/mord-och-drap.html , http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state
The US state in 2011 with the very lowest murder rate has a murder rate nearly 40% higher than Sweden’s murder rate.
Not being able to falsely report a murder like a rape or distort the murder statistics like the rape statistics must really pain Nazi/atheist Swedes.
How embarrassing the murder rate is for the Nazi/atheist movement in Sweden.
So crime is up in Sweden, except in every objective crime statistic that’s difficult to falsely report or distort, right?
So much for statistics!
I think you would should go back to raping on a daily basis you low-life New Zealander. I’ve heard all types of stories about White New Zealanders raping on a daily basis in NZ, what a shame that they aren’t reported as often just because they’re White.
isnobody, You are an idiot. I am sure that I am not the first person to tell you that. If your parents were kind (and therefore are very embarrased about you and your ridiculous thoughts) then they might not have told you but any brothers/sisters would have pointed that fact out to you at some point. Not to mention the teachers at your ‘special’ school. There is your begged insult!
As to your thoughts, you don’t see the contradictions in your facts and believed necessary correlations. By the way, assault rape went down massively this past year. Now that the New Arrivals are settling down. The new arrivals have changed to Syrian now, Sweden take in more than the US. They are civilized and have don’t have the same rape culture as many other muslim peoples. So the new arrivals aren’t raping as much as the groups from the past 20 years.
Why would the murder rate being low be bad for the atheists? Atheists are against murder and are happy that it is low. They are also unhappy about the high rape rate but are happy that the assault rape rate has dropped so much! The US has a high murder rate but a low rape rate. According to you they must be faking the rape rate! You have such wonderful logic!
As to the New Zealand reporting of white rapers. Well that is ridiculous. About all they have is white rapers because who else would they report?! They don’t claim that muslims are doing all of the raping there. You are very slow, thank goodness you are so charming!
Plus, if you accept the US numbers to be reasonably accurate to compare countries (which you do assume in your above argument) then you simply prove that there might be a lot of murder in the US but not much rape, and, there is a lot of rape in Sweden but not much murder (the mighest murder rates were right after the arrival of the Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian War refugees, thousands of the fighters escaped as civilian refugees to Sweden. There was a big spike in rapes as well, since this was a *normal* part of that particular war.
By the way, “The only problem is I’m not a Muslim” Oh, my dear little man, that may be your only saving grace! Plus, if you are correct and that is “The only problem” then why did you have to continue with your additional attempts to think clearly? If that was the only problem then why didn’t you stop at that?
Islam is not a race, Fucking moron
I never claimed or implied that Muslims or Islam was a race.
Yet Islam still remains the most fastest growing religion. Is anybody aware of an area called small heath, it used to be a predominately Asian Asian Muslim area but a lot of white Muslims have been moving in (and also Somalians) :*)
“Yet Islam still remains the most fastest growing religion.”
Why do Muslim adherents always make such ridiculous statements? Other than the fact that it’s not true, what is the point in saying that? Is it supposed to be some jab at those of us who don’t like your beliefs? Either way, it seems like a strange rebuttal to any argument…
Here, take a look at all the religions that claim to be the fastest growing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the_fastest-growing_religion
As you can see, Buddhists, Christians, Mormons, Deists, Hindus, Muslims, Atheists, and Wiccans all attempt to hold claim to the title! You and your religion are no different!
As for growth in adherents to Islam, the overwhelming majority are due to the almost abhorrent fertility rate in Muslim-majority countries.
Take a look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate
As you can see, a good majority of Muslim countries are in the top 25% of the fertility rate rankings. The #1 country is Niger, which gives a fertility rate of ~7.5; so you can expect the average woman in Niger to give birth to 7-8 children. And guess what? 95% of Nigerien’s are Muslim. So it’s quite clear why Islam is growing; it’s because your wives are churning out so many babies!
I also detect a hint of supremacy in your statement. You probably feel that it’s just a matter of time before Islam becomes the dominant religion on the globe. Well, it’s not. Not even close.
According to the Pew Forum Research Center, Muslims are estimated to make up 23.4% of the total global population in 2010 (out of a total of 6.9 billion people) and that by 2030 Muslims will represent about 26.4% of the global population (out of a total of 7.9 billion people). That’s a measly 3% increase in proportion to the world population!
So no, I’m sorry, Islam will not dominate anything other than the fertility rate rankings and the strongest religious adherence charts! (Not to mention suicide bombings, honor killings, unreported rapes, horrible education standards, and scientific illiteracy that will blow your mind.)
What a nonsical statement (by a murtad?), it is the agreement of both Muslims and Non-Muslims that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. With women converting to islam 4 (or 3) times more then men.
In france alone it is said by TF3 (not a muslim owned channel), that 70000 people are “converting to islam” every year. That statistic isnt even from us.
“”buddhism” is the fastest growing religion in jails” that is quiet amusing
what a cheap article from wikipedia, couldnt you find any better sources? I wouldnt be suprised if an athiest constructed that article on wikipedia
“What a nonsical statement”
It’s nonsensical.
Murtad? I had to search the word to know what it means.
“A murtad is a person who leaves the religion (apostacy) and conspires against it.”
Yea, I don’t care. I was never really a Muslim anyway.
“it is the agreement of both Muslims and Non-Muslims that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.”
What the Hell are you talking about? Agreement? What agreement? No it’s NOT. Again, look at the link I just gave you. Almost every religion makes the claim, and your half retarded one is no different.
“With women converting to islam 4 (or 3) times more then men.”
Bullshit again from you. Show me a link to verify the statement. It seems like all of your arguments are just conjecture from your tiny and illiterate Muslim mind.
“In france alone it is said by TF3″
Any independent sources?….like real news outlets? I’m guessing not… 6000 Muslims in Africa convert to Christianity every week. That is ~300,000 a year!
““”buddhism” is the fastest growing religion in jails” that is quiet amusing”
You know what else is amusing?
“In addition to immigration, the state, federal and local prisons of the United States may be a contributor to the growth of Islam in the country. J. Michael Waller claims that Muslim inmates comprise 17-20% of the prison population in New York, or roughly 350,000 inmates in 2003. He also claims that 80% of the prisoners who “find faith” while in prison convert to Islam.”
http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=4f1e0899533f7680e78d03281ff19bc6&wit_id=4f1e0899533f7680e78d03281ff19bc6-2-1
“These converted inmates are mostly African American, with a small but growing Hispanic minority. Waller also asserts that many converts are radicalized by outside Islamist groups linked to terrorism, but other experts suggest that when radicalization does occur it has little to no connection with these outside interests.”
http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/0404/final.pdf
“Mark S. Hamm, a criminologist at Indiana State University, describes a phenomenon he calls “prison Islam.” This consists of “small gang-like cliques that use cut-and-paste versions of the Koran” to give a religious patina to violent and criminal activities. Hamm has identified five such examples since 2005, notably the 2005 Los Angeles bomb plot.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/nyregion/24convert.html?_r=1&ref=us
Actually, I don’t find this amusing. I find it PATHETIC.
“what a cheap article from wikipedia, couldnt you find any better sources? I wouldnt be suprised if an athiest constructed that article on wikipedia”
I guess you don’t know how Wikipedia works, do you? Here, let me educate you.
Go to the links I gave you. Do you see the numbers next to almost every sentence on the webpage? These are SOURCES! Click on the sources to see where they came from. It’s not just people writing crap down. People are simply copying from actual news sites and publications.
As for the fertility webpage, are you kidding me? Did you even take a look at it? The sources are the United Nations, the CIA, and the World Bank. THREE. DIFFERENT. LISTS. So you can even pick and choose which list you want to believe. Just so you know, they are all closely related, which shows the accuracy in compiling this information.
I know it’s difficult to use that narrow and hateful Muslim mind, but try harder.
“What a nonsical statement”
It’s nonsensical.
Murtad? I had to search the word to know what it means.
“A murtad is a person who leaves the religion (apostacy) and conspires against it.”
Yea, I don’t care. I was never really a Muslim anyway.
“it is the agreement of both Muslims and Non-Muslims that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.”
What are you talking about? Agreement? What agreement? No it’s NOT. Again, look at the link I just gave you. Almost every religion makes the claim, and your demented one is no different.
“With women converting to islam 4 (or 3) times more then men.”
BS again from you. Show me a link to verify the statement. It seems like all of your arguments are just conjecture from your tiny and illiterate Muslim mind.
“In france alone it is said by TF3″
Any independent sources?….like real news outlets? I’m guessing not… 6000 Muslims in Africa convert to Christianity every week. That is ~300,000 a year!
““”buddhism” is the fastest growing religion in jails” that is quiet amusing”
You know what else is amusing?
“In addition to immigration, the state, federal and local prisons of the United States may be a contributor to the growth of Islam in the country. J. Michael Waller claims that Muslim inmates comprise 17-20% of the prison population in New York, or roughly 350,000 inmates in 2003. He also claims that 80% of the prisoners who “find faith” while in prison convert to Islam.”
http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=4f1e0899533f7680e78d03281ff19bc6&wit_id=4f1e0899533f7680e78d03281ff19bc6-2-1
“These converted inmates are mostly African American, with a small but growing Hispanic minority. Waller also asserts that many converts are radicalized by outside Islamist groups linked to terrorism, but other experts suggest that when radicalization does occur it has little to no connection with these outside interests.”
http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/0404/final.pdf
“Mark S. Hamm, a criminologist at Indiana State University, describes a phenomenon he calls “prison Islam.” This consists of “small gang-like cliques that use cut-and-paste versions of the Koran” to give a religious patina to violent and criminal activities. Hamm has identified five such examples since 2005, notably the 2005 Los Angeles bomb plot.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/nyregion/24convert.html?_r=1&ref=us
Actually, I don’t find this amusing. I find it PATHETIC.
“what a cheap article from wikipedia, couldnt you find any better sources? I wouldnt be suprised if an athiest constructed that article on wikipedia”
I guess you don’t know how Wikipedia works, do you? Here, let me educate you.
Go to the links I gave you. Do you see the numbers next to almost every sentence on the webpage? These are SOURCES! Click on the sources to see where they came from. It’s not just people writing stuff down. People are simply copying from actual news sites and publications.
As for the fertility webpage, are you kidding me? Did you even take a look at it? The sources are the United Nations, the CIA, and the World Bank. THREE. DIFFERENT. LISTS. So you can even pick and choose which list you want to believe. Just so you know, they are all closely related, which shows the accuracy in compiling this information.
I know it’s difficult to use that narrow and hateful Muslim mind, but try harder.
Yeah, I know about Small Heath. It has really high crime rates!!!!
http://www.findaproperty.com/crimefacts.aspx?edid=00&salerent=0&areaid=5143
Do you know about the high crime rates in the European countries with the purest European stock, least immigration, and lowest percentage of Muslims like Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia?
They have the highest murder rates in Europe, lol.
When Lithuanians rape it’s mostly only reported if the victims have injuries or are dead.
What does European Stock have to do wih anything?? Or the overall crime rate? I thought this was a discussion about your view as there being a link between atheism and rape?!
As to: “When Lithuanians rape it’s mostly only reported if the victims have injuries or are dead.”———- What do you base this on?! Do you have a source?
Why would it matter if Islam was the fastest growing religion or not? It’s just an argument ad populum
I’m still waiting for the atheists and others who side with the atheists to answer these questions:
- Why is Sweden’s rape rate with a 0% Muslim population still calculated as higher than New Zealand’s rape rate?
If there were no Muslims in Sweden then Sweden’s rape rate would remain above New Zealand’s (which already has one of the highest rape rates in the world) in the same position.
The worst rapist in Sweden was not a Muslim but a pure white Swede Thomas Quick who allegedly raped and murdered 30 men.
If Muslims were really responsible for the rape in Sweden we should expect the rape rate to be extremely low with a 0% Muslim population, not remaining in the same position higher than New Zealand’s (another atheist country with a high rape rate).
New Zealand’s rape rate is probably more real since NZ’s murder rate is much higher and NZ doesn’t have rape laws as radical as Sweden’s. But the people gang-raping in NZ are Europeans not Muslims.
- Why has the massive increase in the reported rape rate in Sweden had no effect on the murder rate and why has Sweden’s murder rate decreased significantly?
If people are committing more crime would we expect the murder rate (the king of all crime statistics) to be higher, at least slightly higher, instead the latest data shows Sweden’s murder rate in 2011 as 0.86, the the very lowest murder rate in decades and one of the lowest in Sweden history, Sweden’s murder rate is now lower than every single US state except for 1 (source http://www.bra.se/bra/brott–statistik/mord-och-drap.html)
Back in 1991 when Sweden had a much lower Muslim population the murder rate was at least 2 times higher.
So we know from the murder rate that the type of reported “rapes” in Sweden must be non-violent rapes, so non-violent that they do not cause the murder rate to increase by even the slightest bit.
Forcible rapes involve violence, so the type of “rapes” in Sweden must not be forcible rapes. How can you forcibly rape someone leaving no injuries or sign of force? I guess you could if you threatened them with a weapon or something like that, but the more type of these forcible rapes the higher the chance of violence, so we would still expect the murder rate to go up not go down.
The type of serious non-violent rapes are usually drug rapes or child rapes, if it isn’t one of those then that type of “rape” is indistinguishable from a false report or consensual act.
The murder rate gives us very objective data since it’s calculated by objective deaths rather than the number of reports like with the rape rate.
We also know that the classic signs of a falsely reported rape are no injuries, no signs of force, and no DNA evidence. It’s extremely easy to falsely report a rape unlike with a murder which is very difficult if not impossible to falsely report.
- Why do Swedish journalists claim that most reported rapes in Sweden are false?
“Most [Sweden] rape complaints are false. I base my conclusions on the hundreds of preliminary investigations and verdicts I’ve reviewed in my 30 years as a journalist.” – Ingrid Carlqvist, http://rixstep.com/2/1/20110701,00.shtml
- Why do most other Western countries that have a higher percentage of Muslims than Sweden have lower reported rape rates and why do atheist countries like New Zealand with a low percentage of Muslims have high rape rates?
New Zealand’s rape rate is probably more real than Sweden’s since NZ doesn’t have Sweden’s unique rape laws. When Europeans are reported for rape the victim usually has injuries or is dead so we know it’s not a false report (unlike in the case of the Muslims in Sweden), just look at the case of the tourist who was raped and murdered by a white New Zealander Jason Frandi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7011875/Waimate-victim-had-throat-cut-police-say or Steven Ellis a white New Zealander who murdered and raped a woman http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6099208/Rapist-murderer-jailed-19-years .
Since Europeans will obviously be reported far less often in White racist atheist countries the reported rape rate doesn’t give us any objective data.
In New Zealand if you’re a female you have to be very careful about walking home by yourself because you will have a high chance of getting raped. If the person who raped you was a White male then it will be harder to get a conviction since White males get a free pass more often.
Switzerland has a higher percentage of Muslims than Sweden but Switzerland’s rape rate has decreased recently and is much lower than Sweden’s. Switzerland’s murder rate is also lower than Sweden’s.
From these observations I’ve come to these conclusions:
- Nazi Swedes modified the rape laws and started reporting rape more often to make it appear as if Muslims are raping in Sweden when in reality all that’s changed is Sweden’s rape laws and the rate of reporting rapes
- Nazi Swedes are using Muslims as the easiest target to push nationalism since in modern times Muslims are the easiest target
- Nazi Nationalist Swedes don’t care about deporting all Muslims and leaving non-Muslim non-whites, they want all non-whites out
My advice for non-white Muslims in Sweden would be to just voluntarily leave Sweden. With Muslims their it only makes it easier for the Nazi’s in Sweden. If they didn’t have Muslims and had lots of non-white non-Muslims with more crime it would be much harder for them to push nationalism. Just look at New Zealand, they have Asians instead so they have a harder time pushing nationalism.
If you’re a non-white Muslim who decides to stay in Sweden then you should probably setup a surveillance system to avoid being falsely reported for rape.
“The [Swedish] woman later recanted her story about the alleged rape when she learned that a surveillance camera mounted in the taxi had recorded the couple leaving the vehicle without paying” – http://www.thelocal.se/14626/20080929/
Some other notes:
- Sweden’s rape laws were modified in 2005
- Throughout history in extremely racist societies falsely reporting rapes were common
- Racism and nationalism clearly provides a motive to falsely report rapes
- The only crime statistic that’s changed dramatically in Sweden is the reported rape rate, the murder rate is much lower now
- The reported rape rate counts cases dropped, not convicted, not found guilty, and is highly unreliable
- Notice that when Nazi Norwegians and Swedes mention the Problem of Islam they intentionally leave out mentioning the murder rate, why is this? It’s because it’s lower
- You can’t really falsely report a murder like how you can falsely report a rape, the Nazis in Norway were really disappointed when they found out that the Norwegian murderer turned out to be a white Norwegian and not an Islamic terrorist
- The murder rate gives us objective data, the reported rape rate does not
- Rape cases that involve no violence, injuries, DNA evidence, or sign of force are impossible to distinguish from a false report or a consensual act
- It’s really easy to falsely report a rape and win the case, all you need to do is get multiple accusers to tell the same story, then you’ll easily win even if there’s no DNA evidence or injuries (if the person accused is a non-white male)
- All the evidence clearly points towards the Nazis in Sweden simply using Muslims as the easiest target to push nationalism, they don’t care about ending Islam or whatever they care about deporting all non-whites
Sweden has a -0- % muslim population? Try around 10%.
You are a tragically misinformed, uninformed moron.
Sweden’s Muslim population is around 4.9%.
I guess you displayed your subhuman atheist mind, I said with a 0% Muslim population the calculated rape rate in Sweden would still be higher than New Zealand’s, do you understand that?
What this means if you subtract all the reported Muslim rapes in Sweden that Sweden’s rape rate would remain in the same position above New Zealand’s (which already has a very high rape rate). Do you understand that?
I guess atheists are stupid and idiotic, they are basically subhuman in terms of intelligence.
Thanks for embarrassing yourself with your subhuman level of intelligence.
Atheists are stupid and idiotic?
Anyone who makes such a claim immediately loses all credibility.
Atheists are HIGHLY over-represented in ALL the Sciences and have, on average, much higher incomes than the native country they reside in. Many studies have also shown that less religiosity is correlated with higher IQ. This is true in whichever country you go to.
Stop making stupid statements and focus on the statistics, which show that Muslims are HIGHLY over-represented in rape and assault, and are underrepresented in homicide.
New Zealand had 25.8 rapes per 100,000 people in 2010. Sweden had 63.5. I’m sure you didn’t take into account the 2.0% of New Zealander’s that are Muslim and their representation in the rape statistics, did you?
All of this is besides the point anyway. The overlying argument is that Muslims in Sweden are highly over-represented in the rape statistics. Whether this is the same case for other countries (ie New Zealand) is irrelevant to the average Swede. They simply want to live in a humanistic and secular society, and obviously most Muslims want the opposite.
Well spoken, Karim, but it is fun to play with idiots!
A savage atheist who thinks they’re so smart? Don’t your low-life atheist kind know that your savage primitive atheistic mind can never compete with a superhuman Theist mind like mine?
This isn’t true. The IQ difference between the religious and non-religious within the same ethnic group is extremely small, so extremely small that it’s insignificant with the sampling error factored.
Here’s something that a few subhuman savage atheists will never tell you: Italy and Austria, 2 of the most religious countries in Europe have an average IQ of 102 vs. Czech Republic and Estonia, 2 of the very least religious countries in Europe average IQ of 97. So based off this data we could conclude that in Northern and Western Europe the more religious are more intelligent.
It’s really easy to distort statistics in anyway that you want.
But I’m sure your subhuman atheist mind never figured this out. As usual atheists being gullible and idiotic people just mimic whatever atheistic propaganda they hear without questioning it. Atheists believe anything they hear.
As for science, after atheists took over science in the late 1960s and early 1970s we immediately stopped finding cures, the life expectancy started growing slower, physics became stuck with empirically untestable hypotheses, and technology started growing slower.
Atheists just don’t understand science. Science is actually heading towards pseudoscience now, lol, all about authority and incredulity rather than empirical observations and valid reasoning.
The #1 physicist (Isaac Newton), #1 mathematician (Leonhard Euler), and the #1 experimentalist (Michael Faraday) were all super-religious Theists who were much more religious than all the other scientists that lived during their era. But I’m sure you didn’t figure that out either with your subhuman savage mind.
It’s the Theist’s duty to teach the primitive savage atheists how to do science correctly. You let a bunch of savage animal atheists run loose and all they end up doing is turning science into a laughable popularity contest. Atheists just can’t do anything right.
The same scientific progress that would take some savage atheists thousands of years to make would only take Theists 20-30 years to make.
Who could really be this dumb?
You still haven’t realized that the reported rape rate is the number of reports you dumb fuck, it’s the number of reports.
The homicide rate is calculated by the number of objective deaths and is nearly impossible to falsely report.
Let me explain slowly so that your savage subhuman mind can understand.
You see the Craiglist killer who was a White male tried to rape one of his friends, but the female friend never reported it. It was only after the Craiglist killer went onto murder and seriously injure females did people find out that he was a rapist.
So what would’ve happened if he never murdered or injured anyone? Well the rape would’ve went unreported and no one would’ve thought that he was a rapist.
The reported rape rate doesn’t count unreported rapes so it’s one of the least reliable and least objective statistics.
How do you distinguish Muslims being reported more often for rape versus Muslims actually committing more rape since we know from the murder rate that they’re not the ones doing rape-murders?
2.0%? According to the 2010 Pew report NZ’s Muslim population is 0.9%.
You still haven’t accounted for the rate of reporting Muslims for rape you dumb fuck.
NZ’s rape rate was very high back in 1999 when the Muslim population in NZ was almost non-existent. The people raping in NZ aren’t Muslim you idiot.
NZ also doesn’t have Sweden’s unique rape laws so NZ’s actual real rape rate is probably much higher than Sweden’s.
Yeah, they’re over-represented in the very least objective of all crime statistics that’s based off nothing objective, is calculated by the number of reports, and is the very easiest to falsely report.
What about in objective crime statistics that cannot be easily faked or falsely reported? How are Muslims represented there in Sweden?
Secondly, the authors investigated the link between religiosity and intelligence on a country level. Among the sample of 137 countries, only 23 (17%) had more than 20% of atheists, which constituted “virtually all… higher IQ countries.” The authors reported a correlation of 0.60 between atheism rates and level of intelligence, which was determined to be “highly statistically significant”.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
There is a great graph showing the distribution!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LynnHarveyNyborg-CountryBelieveGod-Intelligence.svg
So, I guess that you are wrong again, itsnobody!! The more atheistic the population then the higher the IQ! Once, you clear the head of all the ridiculous stuff from your little story books then one can see and think more clearly!
Thanks for demonstrating your gullible nature!
Richard Lynn’s argument is just distorted statistics.
Correlation isn’t causation dumbass.
Within the same ethnic group there is no correlation between IQ and religiousity.
Austria has an average IQ of 102 and is one of the most religious countries in Europe where as Estonia (the least religious country in Europe) has an average IQ of 97.
In modern times the 2 most religious countries in Western Europe, Switzerland and Austria have the highest average IQs and the 1st and 2nd most scientific Nobel laureates per capita (among nations with a population size above 1 million)
Estonia (the least religious country in Europe) doesn’t even have 1 scientific Nobel laureate, lol.
There is no causal link between religiousity and IQ, we know this by looking at the average IQs within the same
ethnic group. The average IQ change comes when you change the ethnic group, not when you change the religion, so this tells us that the causal link is the ethnic group, not the religion.
We also know that the world IQ was higher in the past when people were more religious.
So we can easily conclude that within the same ethnic group the more religious are more intelligent. This has been shown throughout history.
So your argument has been completely ruined by me, I win again!
Thanks for the laugh!
Itsnobody if you would like a response to your replies then try breaking them up into subsections with multiple entries. I can’t be bothered to reply all parts of these essays replies that you make.
You misread the source about the murder rate in Sweden (http://www.bra.se/bra/brott–statistik/mord-och-drap.html). You are correct that the murder rate is lower now than it was 20 years ago but it doesn’t say that it is lower than 1990, instead it says lower than the beginning of the 1990′s (börgan av 1990 talet). In the early 1990s Sweden took in a circa 130,000 refugees from the former Yugoslavia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden#Bosnians_in_Sweden). With this came an increase in murder rate and rape rate. These groups (mixed christian/muslim) brought with them the violence from the civil war (high murder and rape). Once these groups integrated the rates went down.
Itsnobody if you would like a response to your replies then try breaking them up into subsections with multiple entries. I can’t be bothered to reply all parts of these essays replies that you make.
You misread the source about the murder rate in Sweden (http://www.bra.se/bra/brott–statistik/mord-och-drap.html). You are correct that the murder rate is lower now than it was 20 years ago but it doesn’t say that it is lower than 1990, instead it says lower than the beginning of the 1990′s (börgan av 1990 talet). In the early 1990s Sweden took in a circa 130,000 refugees from the former Yugoslavia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden#Bosnians_in_Sweden). With this came an increase in murder rate and rape rate. These groups (mixed christian/muslim) brought with them the violence from the civil war (high murder and rape). Once these groups integrated the rates went down.
I didn’t misread anything, I was citing the source for Sweden’s low murder rate in 2011.
Sweden’s murder rate would still be at around 2 times lower than in the 1990s as a whole.
You didn’t answer any of my questions fool.
Itsnobody, I told you that if you want a reply to your questions then break them up into seperate entries, idiot! That is why you didn’t get replies to them all!!
You did misread because you cited the source for its 2011 comparison to 1990 (when in fact it refers to the “beginning of the 1990s” no just the year 1990). You are not very detail orientated are you?! I guess that you being detail oriented and religious don’t mix very well since those cute little story books of yours are inconsistent. Hard to swallow the books if you see all of the inconsistencies.
I didn’t misread, the murder rate in Sweden in 2011 is indeed more than 2 times lower than it was in the 1990s.
So there’s more crime in Sweden, except for in the objective statistics that are difficult to falsely report or distort, right?
All the crime statistics in Sweden that are difficult to falsely report and that are very objective have decreased or remained basically the same.
What a joke.
I cannot imagine being as ignorant as the person who wrote this. I know this is kind of an old post – but still worth commenting on. This is plain stupidity. Your “conclusion” really should have something to do with your post. Even reading it and trying to pretend it isn’t all completely garbage – it is easy to note that the conclusion does not tie into the rest of the post. Now about everything else, well it is not written objectively. It is not objective at all. It is just full of hate. It is sad that there are humans like you around. How disgraseful to the human race. It is common fact that “rape” in a Muslim country is not the same as in Western society. We define spousal rape here – they do not. It is also a fact that in places where they kill you or disgrace you for being raped are going to have low rape numbers. This does not mean it is not happening. It means women are too scared to say anything about it. That is just plain sad. Your ignorance is pathetic.
What a terrible response…I can summarize your response “I say it’s garbage based off nothing”
Hey stupid, in Switzerland and Greece they kill you or disgrace you for being raped?
I’m still waiting for the subhuman atheists to explain why with a 0% Muslim population Sweden’s rape rate would still be higher than New Zealand’s.
I guess this shows how stupid atheists are. They are truthfully the dumbest form of life.
Itsnobody—-
“Sweden Muslim population: 2% (149,000 total)”
“Sweden’s Muslim population is around 4.9%.”
” explain why with a 0% Muslim population Sweden’s ”
Which is it, moron??
This article cited the October 2009 Pew report which gave 2%, but the newer report gives 4.9%.
That’s all, moron.
itsnobody, of coarse some false reports are filed. You make the mistake of thinking that “I pointed out an actual occurrence of a false rape report in Sweden” some how negates all reported rape. You pointing out “an” false report of rape doesn’t mean that all reported rapes are false!! You call that an “objective fact”?? That is a hasty jump to conclusion!!!!
It is also “date rape” that has false reporting. It is reasonable, that assualt rape, where the victim goes to the hospital after the assualt, will have a very low false reporting rate. These women are examined by a doctor to determine if there is evidence for assualt rape. These assualt rapes are what are predominantly performed by the muslim population in Sweden. Or hasn’t that already been said in this stream…….
Muslims are not the only ones raping, moron! it is simply true that in Sweden they are responsible for a disproportional amount of assault rapes in Sweden (circa 80%). Muslims in Sweden don’t date rape very much, the Swedish males date rape at a high rate. (source cited in earlier entry)
Hey stupid they’re misrepresented in the reported rape rate, the very least objective of all crime statistics.
Most of the Muslim rape cases in Sweden are the kind involving no injuries or sign of force, or even DNA evidence. In other words their rape cases are the ones indistinguishable from a false report or a consensual act.
Since Sweden’s murder rate has dropped to 0.86 (one of the lowest in Sweden history) in 2011 we absolutely know that the type of rapes aren’t by lethal force
Since in Sweden there’s extreme racism I don’t doubt that White Swedes would report non-white males more often for rape and Swedish journalists confirm that most reported rapes in Sweden are false.
What do you think the reported rape rate in Sweden would look like if White males were reported for rape as often as non-white males were?
I know the reported rape statistics would probably be composed of 99% White males and 1% non-white males, lol. All the people I know in the US who were raped were raped by White males, but they never reported it.
We know the cases with White males are real and can’t be false reports since many of them involve injuries or murder, lol.
Itsnobody::”Hey stupid they’re misrepresented in the reported rape rate, the very least objective of all crime statistics.”—— I don’t know. I think that assualt rape is objective in that they are taken to the hospital and a doctor checks for signs of rape. So they can be pretty sure that they were raped. Its date rape that is less objective. But is it the “very least objective of all crime statistics”— no, not really. When people are robbed and they report what was robbed from them, so they can claim it on their insurance, this is probably very inaccurate and non objective statistics. Plus, tagging (graphiti tagging) is the most under reported crime!!!!
Itsnobody—”Most of the Muslim rape cases in Sweden are the kind involving no injuries or sign of force, or even DNA evidence. In other words their rape cases are the ones indistinguishable from a false report or a consensual act.” Do you have a source for this claim or are you just making it up?! Assualt rape has injury and DNA evidence.
Itsnobody “Since in Sweden there’s extreme racism I don’t doubt that White Swedes would report non-white males more often for rape and Swedish journalists confirm that most reported rapes in Sweden are false.”—- 70% of assualt rapes on white woman in the USA (according to the FBI stats) are commited by blacks. Is this racism from christians or do black men have a propencity to rape whiite women in the US? These are assualt rapes:not date rapes. Assualt rapes have medical evidence.
“What do you think the reported rape rate in Sweden would look like if White males were reported for rape as often as non-white males were?I know the reported rape statistics would probably be composed of 99% White males and 1% non-white males, lol. All the people I know in the US who were raped were raped by White males, but they never reported it.We know the cases with White males are real and can’t be false reports since many of them involve injuries or murder, lol.” This is all anocdotal and unsourced claims. Who are you trying to fool with this crap???!!!!!!!
It’s time for me to kill off your arguments again!
The fools (atheists) should just face the facts that against me they can’t do anything.
Here are some established indisputable facts:
- Swedes modified their rape laws in 2005 so that lots of things that constitute as “rape” in Sweden do not in most other countries
- Falsely reporting a rape is extremely easy, the easiest of all crime statistics to falsely report, robberies and burglaries would be more difficult to falsely report
- Falsely reporting a murder would be extremely difficult to do
- The reported homicide rate in 2009 for Sweden was 232, but the actual homicide rate was 93, so the actual homicide rate was 60% lower than the reported homicide rate, lol. Swedes are so lame that they actually try to falsely report murders, over 100 of the reported homicides weren’t even homicides, what a joke.
- There were 5,937 reported rapes in Sweden in 2009, but the Sweden Democrats claim that 114 out of 253 court rulings were immigrants. But 253 is only 4% of the reported rapes, 114 is 1.92%.
- All of the objective crime statistics like the murder rate in Sweden, have remained constant or decreased
- From the murder rate in Sweden being lower than all US states we know that the type of “rapes” must be so non-violent that they do not impact the murder rate
- Forcible rapes involve force which leads to violence which leads to murder
- Throughout history in extremely racist societies falsely reporting rapes were common
- The reported rape rate depends on the non-objective factors like the rate of reporting rapes, a country’s rape laws, false reports
- “Assault rape only comprises 6 cases” – http://www.scribd.com/doc/76695373/Excerpt-From-Oslo-Police-District-Report-on-Rape , this is consistent with Norway’s murder rate (lower than all US states), but this is just the cases where the perpetrator was identified, in the unidentified cases 100% of perpetrators were non-Middle Easterners, I wonder why the Norwegian Nazi police didn’t attempt to identify those perpetrators, lol.
- The reported rape rate “does not include cases of rape which go unreported, or which are not recorded. Nor does it specify whether recorded means reported, brought to trial, or convicted. Nor does it take the different definition of rape around the world into account”
Unfortunately I can’t find the Sweden rape report which details the assault rapes in Sweden (not the other reported raes), in Norway the assault rape epidemic is a sum total of 6 cases. From Sweden’s murder rate we can conclude that Sweden’s assault rape is also very low. I’m 100% certain Sweden’s assault rape rate is very low, they modified the rape laws so that lots of things that constitute as “rape” in Sweden do not in most other countries to make the reported rape rate appear high.
Here’s why the reported rape rate is the least objective of all crime statistics:
- It relies on a country’s rape laws
- It relies on the rate of reporting rape (and willingness to come forward)
- It’s extremely easy to falsely report a rape
- It’s calculated by the number of reports
The murder rate isn’t calculated by the number of reports but by the number of objective deaths from homicides, so the murder rate is one of the most objective crime statistics.
Here’s experimental evidence that White males are reported less often:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCQU0jt4cs
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLXCCcqnY-I
Results of the Experiment:
- White male vandals triggered 1 phone call to the police
- Black male vandals triggered 10 phone calls to the police
So the White males were reported 10 times less often than the black males in this experiment, even though they were committing the exact same crime. Other experimental data fits in with this, that White males are reported less often for crimes.
If White males are reported less often for a crime as objective as vandalizing a car in broad daylight I wonder how less often White males are reported for rape. It’s only if the White male goes on to seriously injure or kill someone that people find out or reported it.
Just look at all the rape-murder cases with White males who take prestigious roles in society, if they hadn’t gone on to kill someone their rapes would all be unreported. Examples include the Craigslist killer, Ted Bundy, David Gore, and basically every other rape-murder case with a White male.
I wonder what would happen if White males were reported for rape as often as non-white males were, it would probably be at least 80% White males, I mean this would be consistent with the murder rate.
No one really hears or cares about a White male non-violently raping someone in media or anywhere (unless it’s a child rape or drug rape)
If you report a White male for rape and there’s no injuries or DNA evidence then good luck getting a conviction!
If it’s a non-white male then you have a good chance of getting a conviction.
And just because you think tht atheists lack rational thought then tht doesn’t mean tht would make them subhuman. You have proven over and over again tht you lack all rational thought, yet, the agnostic-athest tht I am (I Don’t KNOW if god exists and I Don’t Believe tht he exist- I am a ‘non’theist- I lack belief in the existance of god. Nice story but I ain’t buying it because I know the history of religion and its evolution from many Hebrew gods to The One god they were being punished by being made slaves in Babylon. From this prime vivacious evolutionary leap in thought- the concept of a single god was perpetuated throughout the middle east and Europe, spreading out from there during trade and colonialization activities. If you know the history then you see tht it is an evolution of philosophy as to the nature of existance. It is a nice story.
It gives great comfort to many and causes damage to at least the same number. It is unncessary to continue along with that philosophy. It was fine when we were all nomads or farmers but now we can start to see what is really here. It is US tht is here. If we focus upon tht then the ethics are obvious. DON’T BE A DICK! Yeah, tht is an obvious rule. Most universal world ethics follow from tht. You, Sir, are a Dick. Most atheist tolerate ignorant, irrational people like you. We not only have to tolerate your stupidity and ignorance but we also have to tolerate the dick, tht is people like you, and their endless, mind numbing litany of illogic and contradictions. We understand tht this problem is the product of ‘having faith’ in the logic and rational of your important story books. We see how it twists you and we try to be patient with the idiots but the dicks are so amusing!! When you are shown to be wrong dozens of times, you still keep whipping tht dead horse. Even an idiot would stop after a while and wonder if maybe they Are wrong! Good luck with tht, dick/idiot?!
“So ridiculous that you refuted not even one statement that I made…I feel bad for destroying these fools
EXPLAIN WHY WITH A 0% Muslim population Sweden’s reported rape rate is still higher than New Zealands?
Why can’t your low-life atheist mouth answer that fuckin question you dumb fuck?
It’s always a great laugh to see an atheist in desperation”
Do you get off on being an absolute dumb-ass? Read my response to you from ONE WEEK AGO, DUMB FUCK. You didn’t even attempt a response until now, and even now you’re only answering my comments that critique you personally. What a pathetic loser you are that you can’t even reply to my original responses.
By the way, of all the studies that have been performed on the difference between Atheists and IQ’s of adherents of other ideologies, Atheists have come out 6 IQ points higher. Chew on that bitch.
“In 2008, intelligence researcher Helmuth Nyborg examined whether IQ relates to denomination and income, using representative data from the National Longitudinal Study of Youth, which includes intelligence tests on a representative selection of white American youth, where they have also replied to questions about religious belief. His results, published in the scientific journal Intelligence, demonstrated that Atheists scored an average of 1.95 IQ points higher than Agnostics, 3.82 points higher than Liberal persuasions, and 5.89 IQ points higher than Dogmatic persuasions.”
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608001013
“Nyborg also co-authored a study with Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Ulster, which compared religious belief and average national IQs in 137 countries. The study analysed the issue from several viewpoints. Firstly, using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 adolescents, the authors found that atheists scored 6 IQ points higher than those adhering to a religion.”
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000238
“Secondly, the authors investigated the link between religiosity and intelligence on a country level. Among the sample of 137 countries, only 23 (17%) had more than 20% of atheists, which constituted “virtually all… higher IQ countries.” The authors reported a correlation of 0.60 between atheism rates and level of intelligence, which was determined to be “highly statistically significant”.”
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000238
Go ahead and say that Science, objective thinking, researchers, and intelligent people are racist and ‘islamophobic’. Fucking idiot.
Green Diamond
I especially like how he had to disparage Atheists at the end! What a ridiculous idiot this guy is!
So ridiculous that you refuted not even one statement that I made…I feel bad for destroying these fools
EXPLAIN WHY WITH A 0% Muslim population Sweden’s reported rape rate is still higher than New Zealand’s?
Why can’t your low-life atheist mouth answer that fuckin question you dumb fuck?
It’s always a great laugh to see an atheist in desperation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
Which explanation is correct or if both contain truth, is debated politically in Sweden, what is known is that immigrants in Sweden are several times more likely to commit rape as opposed to a native Swede. [43]
http://www.bra.se/download/18.cba82f7130f475a2f1800012697/2005_17_brottslighet_bland_personer_fodda_sverige_och_utlandet.pdf
Just for itsnobody.
I work for Tom Metzger at the Corvallis Water Treatment Plant, Corvallis Oregon. 1979 to 1984.
Tom Metzger attended church every Sunday. I personally moved his belonging out of the house under police observation ( Supervisor had a house at the treatment plant site ). I know Tom was at church because of on-call duty at the plant on the weekend.
Disclaimer : I was employed by City of Corvallis, Metzger was my supervisor not FRIEND.
Hey stupid I can careless if you work for that Nazi fag atheist Tom Metzger with all your other low-life atheist Nazi holocaust hoax friends or whatever.
Tom Metzger left “Christ-insanity” for atheism.
Immigrants account for so much reported rape in Sweden, yet Sweden’s murder rate has decreased with more immigrants, lol.
Murder and rape are not the same crime and on mass are not committed by the same criminals. Some do both but most rapists are not murderers. Typically men are murdered and women are raped. Cowards rape women because they are weaker and easier victims.
Hey stupid,
I didn’t say murder and rape were the same crime, I said that the murder rate was much more objective since it’s calculated by objective deaths and nearly impossible to fake.
The reported rape rate is calculated by the number of reports, can very easily be faked (it’s extremely easy to falsely report a rape), has to do with a country’s rape laws, and includes cases immediately dropped, not convicted, not found guilty.
So the reported rape rate is the very least objective of all crime statistics fool (atheist).
There could be many countries with a high reported rape rate and low number of actual rapes or vice-versa, fool.
So what I’m trying to say is that the reported rape rate gives us no objective data (especially since the murder rate in Sweden in 2011 is one of the lowest in decades).
Exactly how did this become about atheists? New Zealand is not an atheist country, don’t even know why it is mentioned. More facts and less name calling would be helpful.
New Zealand is definitely an atheist country stupid, or if you don’t count it as an atheist country it’s a non-religious country. On countless atheist propaganda sites they consider New Zealand as atheist.
New Zealand is around 1/4th atheist and at least 1/3rd non-religious http://www.liturgy.co.nz/newsviews/census.html
So you think that “atheist propaganda sites” are a good source for information?!
Check out the below source the rapes in muslim countries is low in comparison to western countries http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
You fail to differenciate between reported rape and occurance of rape. Follow your link and it discusses this issue. Namely, in some cultures females are actively “discouraged” from reporting rape and find themselves persicuted if they were to report themselves as rape victims. This has already been discussed in this thread. Plus, You falsely make the assumption that because muslims don’t rape in some places that means that they don’t rape anywhere. Look thru the thread and you will see links to sites demonstrating these two issues.
I agree with GreenDiamond on this.
The reported rape rate is one of the very least objective of all crime statistics.
There could be many countries with a high number of actual rapes but a low reported number.
The countries in Europe with the highest murder rates like Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia are the ones that have the lowest percentage of Muslims and the least immigration
What would Lithuania’s reported rape rate be with Sweden’s unique rape laws? It would probably be around 300
Check out the below source the rapes in muslim countries is low in comparison to western countries http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics and btw most crimes in western countries get unreported as well as some 3 world nations both muslim & non muslims like Pakistan , India , Bangladesh , somalia , srilanka.
What a bunch of crap that swedish media is coming up with more false reporting propaganda against the muslims and fools below buying into the lies. There is expotentialy more rape , molestation , sexual exploitation in western countries than there is in muslim countries in fact the crime in all areas is very low in comparision to western countries.
Do you references for your claims. We have already discussed the issue of reported crime vs actual crime rate. So be sure to be clear in your terminology!
Let see your sources?
As to your Norwegian police report link. https://www.politi.no/vedlegg/lokale_vedlegg/oslo/Vedlegg_1309.pdf
It fails to seperate the “assualt rape” from the other rapes. Muslims are over represented in the “assualt” rape while Norwegians are represented in the Nöjes or recreation rapes as defined in other comment.
The report does mention that 30% of all rapes are from African backgrounds. By African in Norway, this is the large group of North Africans (muslims) in Norway. Black Africans (other than mixed Somalian) is very rare.
Add to that the 15% with middle eastern backgrounds. That gives you 45% of ALL Norwegian rapes are done by that tiny population of Muslim immagrants in Norway. WOW- Those muslims love raping atheist chicks, don’t they?! Muslims, are under reported in Domestic rapes cases,, certainly due to their high respect for women. So those 45% are not found their (I guess some women might be raped at home by their muslim husbands- of coarse, according to the Koran, a muslim man has the right to force sex on his wife, and it is not considered rape). So they don’t do domestic or nöjes rape– but they just love assault rape!
@Green diamond seems to be mentally unstable no.1 Quran doesnt allow forced sex with your wife and no.2 atheist norway men rape their wives reapetedly for years. A good report to read on this subject is this http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/world/europe/in-norway-gender-equality-does-not-extend-to-the-bedroom.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all all rape blame muslims are fake
@lance. Perhaps GreeenDiamond is mentally unstable but you provide no motivation for this conclusion.
Unless you numbered statements are proof to you?! As to No 1, the koran only allows a wife to refuse sex to her husband if she is sick or menstrating. Otherwise, because they are married there is assumed consent. As to No 2, your info does not contradict what was stated as to rape in Norway. Rape is classified differently when it is domestic situations, nöjes (recreational situations-meet someone when your out partying) and assault rape (stranger(s) grabbing you). It was stated tht Norwegian men are over represented in the first two and and muslims are over represented in the last (assault rape) figure.
@lance If islamic law doesn’t allow forced sex with your wife then perhaps you need to give this cleric some Saudi National Television a call and let him know that he misinterprests the word of his god. But I guess that since a woman is not allowed to refuse sex to her husband then how could he force her if she isn’t refusing
@lance Look at this idiot greendiamond if a person comes on t.v doesnt make him right. Coming to the issue No Muslim man can force his wife into sex! “ If a man calls his wife to bed and she refuses, and then he sleeps angry, the angels shall curse her until he awakens .” [an unquestionably authentic hadith, related by both Bukhari and Muslims, as well as numerous others]
Islam is an religion of peace, and honours women. There are many hadith about the good treatment of women. Unfortunately some igonarant muslim men think they can force their wives to have sexwith them. They argue that ‘since it is obligatory for a women to respond to her husbands call to have sex , they can force their wives to have sex with them if they refuse their request’
This is wrong and this sort of behaviour has no place in Islam !
Refuting their weak argument (and explaining the hadith in question):
If something is obligatory to do for a muslim, does this mean we are allowed to force a muslim to do so, if he/she doesnt perform the obligated things in Islam. Like for example, it is obligatory for a muslim to pray 5 times a day, does this mean we can force and abuse/ torture a muslim to peform his prayer?
If someone doesnt fast during Ramadan, are we muslims allowed to force him to do? Of course not. The prophet (pbuh) never forced anyone to do something. We know it is obligatory for a person to follow the religion ofIslam if he/she wants to get to Jannah, so can we (even out of love or mercy) force non-muslims into islam?
2:256 There is no compulsion in religion , for the right way is clearly different from the wrong way . Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.
So Allah makes clear that we cannot force others to our religion. So if we can’t force non-muslims to islam (to save them from hell) then how can it be allowed to force our own brothers and sisters in islam to do certain religious dutys? Off course we must warn them for committing a sin, and we are obligated to help them and to forbid them what is wrong, but every person in islam is responsible for his own deeds, at the end it’s a persons own choice to decide which thing to do, as muslims brothers and sisters we have to do all we can to save them from sins or evil deeds, but we can’t force them. It’s their own choice which thing to do at the end. Allah will be judgeus on our intentions, a persons real intention comes only out when there is free-will and free-choice in religion. Thats why Allah swt allowed free-will and free-choice in Islam (Allah swt knows best)
So when the prophet said: ” Ifa man invites his wife to sleep with him and she refuses, then the angels send their curses on her till morning “
Does this mean the husband can force his wive into sex/marital rape ? Noooooooo!
The wife clearly knows that she is wrong, when she rejects her husband request (she should fullfil his sexuel needs). But the husband can’t compulse or force his wife into sex/marital rape. The husband has the right to insist that she should fullfil his right, and the husband has the right to be angry at her for this (in a proper way), even the husband has the right to divorce her when she repeatedly refuses his request, however he still hasn’t the right in Islam to force her into sex/marital rape !, if he had the right to do, then certainly the prophet would mention it, but the prophet didn’t. The reason for this is that forcing someone doesn’t belong and doesn’t fit in the peacefull teachings of Islam.
Islam is clear about rules and punishment. For major sins like fornication , rape, murder and theft , there are physical punishments. However when it comes to issues like ‘not performing the 5 daily prayers’ or ‘not fasting during ramadan’ or ‘not fullfilling the sexual needs of one’s spouse’ etc. then a person will be held responsible for his own deeds on the day of judgement. Allah swt will judge a person by his own deeds, all the sins committed by the person during his earthly life will count in his judgement by Allah swt, based on this Allah swt (and not the husband !) will decide which reward and/or which punishment a person will get.
Further the hadith in question clearly states at the end: “If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger , the angels will curse her till the morning .”
So no where in the hadith, is the husband giving any right to force his wife into sex, instead the hadith clearly mentions, that when the husband spends the night in anger ( this is another proof that makes clear that a husband can’t force his wife to have sex, because how can a husband spend the night in anger sexually depressed, if he had the rightand could force his wive to fullfill his sexuel needs?? This cleary poofs that a muslim husband doesn’t have the right to force his wife into sex with him).
@Robin “This is clearly proof”- no, not really since religious books say lots of different things and clearly these things can be interpreted in different ways, as evident by the fact that this official cleric on Saudi national television clearly disagrees with “your” analysis of the Koran (and your other sources) and a woman’s right to refuse sex. Perhaps if you gave a source for your interpretation then we could compare the relative authority level of your source to the source in the video; who, again, is an official cleric on Saudi state television who is there to explain the rules of the religion to the people of Islam.
“The prophet (pbuh) never forced anyone to do something” Well, I guess that depends upon how you define “forced” and “anyone”. If you define “anyone” as being any human being (whether they are muslim or not) then clearly he played a tremendous role in individuals doing things that they did not want to do. “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433) Muhammad ordered that a fifth of the women taken captive be reserved for him. Many were absorbed into his personal stable of sex slaves that he maintained in addition to his eleven wives. Others were doled out like party favors to others. Clearly these women were forced to do something that they did not want to do. The question then is if you and the Koran consider them to fit the definition of “anyone”.
As to defining “forced”- at what point does coercion become forced. If you are whipped 100 times for every time you fornicate then is this not an attempt to “force” you to stop fornicating?
@diamondgreen the fool here is you african population in Norway is composed of both Christians and muslims at the same percentage. You are just making an guess that those africans could be muslims. So stop spreading your sick hate propoganda.
@Robben Check out the wiki link at the bottom. It shows the population growth and break down from country of origan in Norway. The fact is that I have friends from many cultures and a brother who is half black. I have close friends who are muslim who are appauled by the reality in Norway and Sweden. The fact is that You are the fool because you believe what you want to believe and ignore facts in order to support your belief. Here are some statistics for you. Please not the Muslim countries and non/semi muslim countries.: Immigration from countries in Africa to Norway increased slightly from the end of the 1980s, but grew markedly from 2000 onwards. The increase is owed mainly to a rise in the number of immigrants from North and Northeast Africa, including Somalia (25,496), Morocco (8,058), Eritrea (5,789) and Ethiopia (5,156).[2]
Other Africans
Compared to North and Northeast Africans, the percentage of Africans from other regions as a proportion of recent immigrants to Norway from Africa is relatively low.
Most other Africans in Norway come from West Africa, especially Ghana (2,034), Gambia (1,409) and Nigeria (1,247).[2] There is also a sizeable population of Africans from the Democratic Republic of the Congo (2,050)
Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigration_to_Norway
@Robin. I guess that you are wrong about muslim/christians from Africa in Norway are of equal proportion. I wonder if you are able to admit that you are wrong? I never stated that they are “only” muslims from Africa in Norway but you clearly stated that it is of “equal proportion”. Feel free to admit that you were wrong!
@diamondgreen has prooven what lance said that she is mentaly unstable. Well lance you had hit the nail on its head. First of all the link from wikipedia that diamondgreen posted doesnt mention wheather those africans are muslim or christians. It just says ( Religion of african immigrants Christians, muslims ) what that wikipedia article mentions is NATIONALITY of immigrants. What she is hypotheticaly assuming ( due to her hate for muslims ) is that all those nations are full of muslims. Well let me qoute the nationality of of african immigrants to norway from the link she gave. And then provide the religion of people from those nations.Somalia (25,496)
Morocco (8,058)
Eritrea (5,789)
Ethiopia (5,156)
DR Congo (2,050)
Ghana (2,034)
Algeria (1,497)
Gambia (1,409)
Kenya (1,275)
Sudan (1,318)
Nigeria (1,247)
Burundi (1,119)
Tunisia (1,106)
Liberia (1,075). Now lets se what religion do people in these 14 nations have – s.no- nations-percentage of muslims-percentage of christians & non muslims. 1. Somalia – 99% – 1%
2. Morocco – 99% – 1% 3.
Eritrea – 36% – 64%
4. Ethiopia – 23 % – 77%
5. DR Congo – 1% – 99% 6.
Ghana -
15% – 85% 7. Algeria – 99% – 1% 8.
Gambia – 90% – 10% 9.
Kenya – 11% – 89% 10.
Sudan – 70% – 30% 11.
Nigeria – 47% – 53
12. Burundi 5% – 95% 13.
Tunisia – 99% – 1%
Liberia – 12 % – 88%. Now as we can see that the muslim in those nations from which people immigrate to norway is 51.21%. So it is clear stupidity to assume that those africans could be muslims. And coming back to the dumbass bitch diamondgreen which say she has a brother who is half black. Ha he ha he ha ha he. Well filthy norway slut there is no such thing as half black. Either your white , black or colourded. This shows that she doesnt have basic knowledge. What a fool. Then she says she has close friends who are muslims. Well this moronic norway slut thinks others to be stupid. If she would be having close muslim friends then she wouldnt be spreading hate against muslims all across the internet.
@rRobin Apparently you are not so good at a number of things. Lets start with math!
Somalia 25496 99% 25241
Morocco 8058 99% 7977
Eritrea 5789 36% 2084
Ethiopia 5156 34% 1753
DR Congo2050 1% 21
Ghana 2034 15% 305
Algeria 1497 99% 1482
Gambia 1409 90% 1268
Kenya 1275 10% 128
Sudan 1318 97% 1278
Nigeria 1247 50% 624
Burundi 1119 5% 56
Tunisia 1106 99% 1095
Liberia 1075 12% 129
Total 67170 43441 65% Total Muslim (not the 51% you calculate on)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Africa
Next, wrong guess at my country of origin. I am not Norwegian. But you have had an education from outside of North America because of your spelling of certain words but you are unlikely to be Irish or British due to your poor grammar, plus, your spelling is clearly not just from not paying attention but you don’t know how to spell in English. I am guessing by your grammar that you are Scandinavian (perhaps German but no, not really). Due to you calling me a “norway slut”, one could conclude that you are not Norwegian but one of those know it all wimpy Swedes who like to think that they are important in the world. Everyone knows Sweden, the country with the guys who can’t hold their alcohol and they make the cheese and leather pants!!
But that is just a guess, you could just be a dumb immigrant in some country who never got a decent education and that is why you write like an ignorant rock farmer!!
Plus, it is interesting that you assume I am a female But you show your true colours by calling me a “bitch”. I bet you consider yourself a feminist, too!!
As to: “Either your white , black or colourded. This shows that she doesnt have basic knowledge”……. well, I don’t even know where to start! What a crazy, ignorant rasist thing to say! ha ha ha Is this three race theory of your based on genetic research or is it what the bible/toran/koran says? Cuz if it says so in those books then it must be true!! Funny that you think this simplton’s racist view of the complexity of human genetics is “basic knowledge” and that you assume that anyonw who doesn’t know it is a moron!! You really need to take some classes in human genom.
So, If I understand you correctly, if someone is of mixed race then they are no longer half white but all the way black? My brother has an American black father (50% of whom have are mixed white and black genes) and his mother is slavic. So his blood is half and half. So I guess to you he is no longer pure white? Wow! your some kind of white supremisist!! What about orientals, Native North and South Americans, Eskimos (inuit are only a subgroup of them), semites (arab and jew)?
Oh, because your a dumb racist and an anti feminist then I’ll save you some confusion. My father married his mother and adopted her son (the half black/half white brother of mine). So in my heart, mind, and in the eye of the law, he is indeed my brother.
Hey green diamond if you are so worried about rape let’s implement the shariah so rapists will get stoned to death. You don’t stand on anything
@AbdulWadoodMuhammed Wow! That is a great idea! I do agree that assault rapist deserve to be stoned to death! While shariah law would certainly reduce the number of Reported assault rapes( because of the shariah law requirement of 4 witnesses to the rape or else the woman is stoned to death for fornication, this is a handy way of keeping women from reporting assault rape when it happens) it wouldn’t actually reduce the number of Actual Assault Rapes.
I don’t actually “fear” rape myself. Because I am not a white female in Scandinavia there isn’t a really high risk of it.
“you don’t stand on anything” is not an English expression so could you please translate that?
@AbdulWadood Muhammed look at this mindless joker greendiamond she imagines she’s more smater than me read her comment below. Well this fool doesnt know what sharia law says about rape and fornification/adultry. Anyone who accuses a women of commiting fornification/adultry needs four witnesses and after that both women and man who did the crime of fornification/adultry are not stoned to death but given 100 lashes (Quran 24 : 2). The rape victim just needs to identify the convict then after investigations (like medical checkup) the rapist is stoned to death. AbdulWadood Muhammed this clown green diamond doesnt know the basics of Islam and Sharia law its a total waste of time to comment over her stupid and ignorant statements.
@Robben No, Mr. Rock Farmer, I am not from the Czech Republic. Not even close. But you were taught in a Koran school where all they teach you is the Koran and a bit of math and language. That explains your poor math and Englsih skills. Only an ignorant fool taught in a Koran school would make the mistake of equating intelligence with knowledge of the koran. Plus, your sympathic appeal to Abdul-Wadood Muwahid (as a fellow muslim) reveals that you are a muslim, too. Plus, your continuation of the pattern of calling me a “slut” and refering to me as a she despite you clearly having read an entry where I stated that I was not a female. So you think that calling me a female is a great insult to me. Only a 12 year old or a muslim would think that was a great insult. So, how accurate is my guess?
So, I can assume at this point that you consider yourself as knowledgeable in the rules of the Koran and that I am ignorant in its details. So, please, explain to me what happens if a girl accuses 5 men of gangraping her and there are no witnesses or medical evidence against these men. But there is medical evidence that she was clearly brutally raped. So she admits that she had sexual realtions with these “men”. The men on the other hand deny everything. So how is this handled. What is the way this is handled in countries/societies using sharia law?
I wrote a longer rebuttle to you yesterday but it is “awaiting moderation” so there is a delay in it being displayed.
Greendiamond definetly works in a circus as a joker lets read her stupid , irrational and hilarious comment. ” So, please, explain to me what happens if a girl accuses 5 men of gang raping her and there are no witnesses or medical evidence against these men. But there is medical evidence that she was clearly brutally raped.” this clearly shows that how much brain Mr. Fool (greendiamond) have. Why will a rape victim accuse 5 men of gang raping her. She will accuse the rapist who did that and the medical report will proove it. And as you yourself said there is no medical evidence against those 5 men. Why will there be a medical evidence against those 5 men. Well clown medical evidence will be against the rapist who did the rape and also the girl will accuse the rapist not those 5 men. Another mentaly retarded statement from this fool. I think he gets his gay ass fùcked by donkeys and have started to evolve into one. What a mindless , dumb , unthinking joker. Now what he is actualy talking about is process of investigations. He never wrote about how european countries investigate such cases. Before talking about sharia law on any issue rape , murder etc first write the legislative , judicial and executive system of European countries so that a clear comparison can be made. But i expect this semi-donkey creature would come up with more stupid and irrational comments. Just to mention few of his stupid comments. First he came up with nonsense that african in norway means muslims. Which was disproved by himself (moron). Then he started to intermix the sharia law for rape with fornification/adultry. , then after googling he came up with a bullshit website which claims to expose the sharia law but didnt know what is sharia law and now she came with another ludicrous comment which denies any kind of logic (ie as i pointed out why would a girl accuse 5 men of raping her. She would accuse the rapist and the medical report will proove that and he himself said that there is no medical evidence against those 5 men. What a pathetic shit this circus joker greendiamond is.
@Robin. There are so many errors here (per your Modus operandi) thus making it very difficult to know where to start. First of all, circuses don’t have “joker”s. Circuses have clowns.
“Why will a rape victim accuse 5 men of gang raping her. She will accuse the rapist who did that…” This is your reaction to me writing “. Clearly, I owe you an apology. I have clearly over estimated your intelligence and your level of English comprehension. “gang rape” means to be raped by a “gang” (meaning group). In such cases there is not a “the rapist”; it is a case of “the rapists”, meaning the 5 men are the rapists.
Now, surely even you, despite how poorly equipped as you are from your Koran school education (which surely did not take place in Holland), can see the dilemma that I am in. I could go line for line thru your last statement pointing out the problems with what you wrote but, ultimately, it is a comprehension issue. You simply lack the ability to comprehend simple statements.
You can’t even provide a simple explanation of sharia law (despite your claims of being able to correct others who are ignorant of its intricacies, which you appear to be amongst said group).
As to medical reports; I hardly believe the village you come from has much to offer in such matters, nor much use of such evidence. And your assertion as to the need for a comprehensive review of various European laws in order to discus sharia law is lacking merit and motivation of any kind.
As to homosexuality and fornicating with donkeys, why don’t you save your sexual fantasies and activities for you and your family livestock?
@greendiamond the joker who thinks she is smart dont know how to spell origin and is spelling it as origan , is attacking me on spellings. What a fool. By the way she was again unable to proove or infact disaprooved what she said in the beggining. That africa in norway means muslims , so her lie has been exposed by herself when she calculated the percetage of 65% to 35%. So this clearly shows that african in Norway doesnt mean that your muslim. As far as her attack on my calcutions is concerned well i never said that this is the percent of african muslims who immigrate to norway but i said that it is the percentage of muslims who live in those 14 countries from which african generaly immigrate. So it clearly shows that this slut cant read. Now this circus clowns trying to talk about of feminism and all the rant she wrote was a method to misdirect the issue . As far as her sick blame on muslims is concerned well let us for one second hypotheticaly believe just making guesses that those 45% rapes are supposedly commited by muslims then the 45% of total 86 rapes is 38. And the muslim population in Norway is 1,63000. So the percetage of supposed muslim doing crime is 0.0002% and she is blaming the muslims for the crimes of not even 1% but 0.0002 %. And that to is a guess and not a sure crime. What a disgusting shit this greendiamond is i think anyone who blames everyone for the crimes of even 1% of its people should be taken to mental hospital for shock therapy. What an asshole this greendiamond is. Pathetic looser seems to have no work instead of spreading mindless hate through her ludicrous trolls. And by the way i am a dutch. This clown always guesses wrong.
@Robin “This clown always guesses wrong” Well, this is clearly wrong since I guessed that you learned your English outside of North America, and that guess was correct. While my guess as to you possibly being Swedish or German was not correct because you are Dutch (not “a dutch”) that was actually a pretty good guess on my part considering the limited information I had (which I stated to be only a guess and suggested that it could be incorrect, while you assume all of your guesses are correct and state them as fact, which makes you an idiot). The origin of the Dutch people and language is Germanic (as are the Swedes and their language). The Dutch language is closest linked to German and Swedish. You Dutch even have one of your patriotic national songs in which you sing that you are “Deutch”.
As to your guessing, you haven’t guessed anything correct nor can you read. Firstly, you are still under the assumption that I am a female, which is not the case. Secondly, the figures (and link provided) of muslimisation of the African countries provided early is not for the immigrant population in Norway. As the link states, this is the for the countries themselves. So I guess it is you who cannot read. Plus, I didn’t state that all Africans in Norway are muslim but that the majority of them are and that the non-muslims are a small percentage.
As to your other math and reading comprehension deficiencies, the 45% figure stated earlier was for “all rape” in Norway. Not just the 86 Assault rape in 2010 in the city of Oslo. Muslims were responsible for all of those 86 rapes. I don’t have the figures for Norway but earlier you were provided the figures for Sweden, where muslims are responsible for circa 80% of all assault rape (circa 1000) per year during the last 10 years. This would give you a total of 10,000 acts of rape and 60% of these have more than 1 attacker. That gives you a minimum of 16,000 muslim men having participated in raping a Swedish woman (in some cases they rape two or three women simultaneously). This works out to circa 7-10% of the muslim male population in Sweden having participated in an assault rape against a Swedish woman. Without the exact figures for all of Norway (again the 86 rapes are only in Oslo for one year) it is impossible to calculate the figure there. But we can get a better perspective than what you provided. The muslim population in Oslo is circa 45,000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Norway) . It is reasonable that 50% of this is male, 22,500. It is unlikely that anyone 5 or under is doing the raping and according to UNHCR (http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home/opendocPDFViewer.html?docid=3b9378e518&query=age%20distribution) circa 20% of all refugees are under 5 years of age (22,500×0.80=18,000) . So 18,000 muslim males over the age of 5 live in Oslo. The same source shows that 55% of the total are under 18 years of age, 20% of which are under 5 years old. We can imagine that under 18 year olds are committing assault rape in Oslo but it is unlikely that the very young are. So if we look at 15 year olds and up we can “guess” that perhaps circa 10% (35% are between 5 and 18 years of age so with even distribution that gives circa 3% per year of age, 15, 16 17 is 3 years times 3 percent circa 10%). So 10% of the 22,500 (2,500 are in the rape age plus those 18 and over. According to UNHCR there are very refugees over 60 (and probably don’t do much assault raping at that age). But at what age do the remaining 10% plus circa 40% (between 18 and 60 years of age) are in their raping age? Not really sure about this one but let’s just say 20% of these guys (leaving 80% in this age group which is 40% of the male refugees- 0.80×40%= 32%) are just too old to rape. So we end up with 32% +10%= 42% who might be out there raping. 42% of 22,500 equals circa 10,000. So of the 10,000 raping age muslim males in Oslo how many of them have raped a Norwegian in Oslo during the last 10 years? Well, if 86 is a normal year then 86 x 10 is 860. That would mean circa 8% of them have! That is called math. It is interesting how similar that is to the national rate of muslims raping Swedish girls in Sweden
As to this being propaganda, well I guess you need to define what you believe that word means. Is it propaganda to state that less than 1% if all assault rape on black women in America are done by white men and 70% of all assault rape on white women are done by black males (despite them only being circa 10% of the US population? Is that propaganda for me to state? It is a true statement. I believe that it is propaganda to try to cover it up. Although I have a half black brother, I can still accept the fact that black American males have a propensity to assault rape white women at a disproportional rate. It is propaganda to try and suppress the truth just because it doesn’t fit into your political views.
As to your spelling, I didn’t attack your clear, inability to spell but simply stated that you don’t know how to spell in English and that it wasn’t from you just not paying attention. If this is what you define as an “attack” upon your spelling then you are as ignorant as you appear. I indeed spelt “origin” as origan once but you misspell every third word, thus demonstrating that you do not have a good command of English. You have a pattern of poor grammar and spelling. This demonstrates you as not being a native English speaker and/or poorly educated.
But I am sure that you will see all of this as “misdirection”. I am “guessing” that that is your way of avoiding acknowledging that you lost on those topics.
@Robben As to me who “thinks she is smart”. I don’t necessarily think tht I am smart but I do know that I am smarter than you.
Greendiamond appears to be a case of severe Paranoid schizophrenia. From her above comments we can see she imagines herself to be smarter than me but doesnt know the difference between the islamic law on rape and fornification and is intermixing the two. I have made the difference clear in my comment below her ludicrous statements. She says that in sharia rape victim needs four witnesses to persecute the criminal. Well as i made it clear that is false. Anyone who accuses a women of commiting fornification/adultry requires four witnesses and not rape victim. Clearly she doesnt know the islamic laws. She imagines herself to be smarter than me but couldnt think that if there would be four witnesses then they would stop the rape and this rule must be for something else. What a braindead moron this greendiamond. I think she believes in writing comments no matter how stupid , irrational and ignorant they are.
@Robin here is an example of inforced sharia law.
http://www.englandspeaks.co.uk/sharia-law-rape-victim/
As to Paranoid schizophrenia, now we know that only are you not genetically dutch (perhaps you are a dutch citizen, so maybe I was right about you being an immigrant rock farmer!) but you also know nothing about diagnosing psycholigical ailments. You are a pathetic little idiot ( “more smarter” ha ha ha!!! great grammar!!)
Greendiamond is getting from dumb to dumber. What a clown after googling she came up with a link to a pathetic website. (And the internet is full of rubish , nonsensical anti islamic website). Every supposed muslim country has their own laws and constitution and not sharia law. Well coming to the next part that wasnt sharia law that bullshit website claimed that it was. According to sharia law when a person accuses a women of commiting adultery then he should have four witnesses and also the man who commited adultery is punished. But as we can see the girl was gangraped so all the rapists should have been stoned to death after investigations (ex medical checkup). Greendiamond the dumb slut cant understand simple things. I am sure she is a slut from Czech Republic. I am right greendiamond ? ? ? ?
Greendiamond seems to know to much about circuses and clowns oh i forget thats her job. Coming to her statement of error he making errors from the very start like Africa in Norway means muslims etc. Why is she calling me names on errors ? ? ?. And the second part she doesnt have common sense she wrote ” So, please, explain to me what happens if a girl accuses 5 men of gang raping her and there are no witnesses or medical evidence against these men. But there is medical evidence that she was clearly brutally raped.” what she cant understand from her statement is that if the medical report doesnt have evidence against those five men then they havent commited the rape and hence someone else has done it as there is medical evidence that the girl was raped What a fool greendiamond lacks common sense. She talked about village again these are all investigation problems and she didnt mentioned how european laws would have handled situation in the villages. he definetly has reading problems or i guess has evolved into a donkey after getting his gay ass fùcked by them. This seems to be the case to me that he wants to write the last comment no matter how ludicrous , stupid , irrational and nonsensical it maybe.
@Robin Your Koran school has done a very poor job of teaching you deductive reasoning, which is not a surprise to most other people. Examples of this are as follows.
You conclude that since I know that circuses have clowns (and not jokers) that I know “to much” about circuses (I am assuming that you mean “too” much, meaning an excessive amount). So what every child know you consider to be too much. Yes, I am sure that is exactly what you are taught. Any knowledge is too much if it is not contained within the Koran to you.
The majority of immigrants from Africa are indeed muslim (65% of them). The vast majority, not half as you wrongfully claim, are muslims. So if you run into an African immigrant in Norway then the chances are very high that they will be muslim, infact 65% chances, not half as you propose. That is your error.
Robin asserts that: that if the medical report doesnt have evidence against those five men then they havent commited the rape and hence someone else has done it. This is ridiculously pathetic deductive reasoning. If someone walks up to you and hits you in the head with a bat and then destroys the evidence, then according to you, this person did not commit the act (barring the case of witnesses). Evidence can be destroyed. In one case of 6 muslims in southern Sweden raped a 16 year old girl for 4 hours and then poured chlorine in her mouth, vagina and anus. This destroyed the medical evidence. According to you these 6 muslims therefore did not do it and hence it must have been done by someone else. Again, your Koran schooling doesn’t serve you very well. Ironically, you assert that I don’t have common sense! You are so funny, perhaps that explains your obsession with clowns and jokers?! Perhaps you have dreams of the circus or court jesting?!
And again, you bring up European law and fail to answer my inquiry as to how sharia law would handle the situation. Since you are so learned in sharia law then why don’t you answer my simple query? Perhaps you don’t know the answer because you weren’t paying attention during you classes at school. Maybe you should stop dreaming about being a clown and/or joker and you should put your head down into your great book?
This seems to be the case to me that you wants to write the last comment no matter how ludicrous , )stupid , irrational and nonsensical it maybe. As for me, I find your ignorance and lack of reasoning abilities amusing!! You are very entertaining and well on your way to being the clown/joker of your dreams!!
Greendiamond is i think really mentaly unstable and now i am not joking another stupid and nonsensical statement from her i think he takes hallucinating drugs and writes these comments Lets me qoute what he what she wrote ” The majority of immigrants from Africa are indeed muslim (65% of them). The vast majority, not half as you wrongfully claim, are muslims.So if you run into an African immigrant in Norway then the chances are very high that they will be muslim, infact 65% chances, not half as you propose.” This mentaly retarded , fool doesnt know the the difference between percentage of african muslims in Norway and percentage of muslims in the country from which they immigrate to Norway. What a fool let me quote what i wrote . ” Now as we can see that the muslim in those nations from which people immigrate to norway is 51.21%. ” This fool doesnt know the difference between the two statements and is talking about deductive reasoning. Well coming to the next part this really mentaly unstable person is adding more statements to her argument of 5 men gangraping a girl like evidence could destroyed. Now this was not in her initial argument so he adds new information in every comment. And again as i said (what this really mentaly unstable person cant understood) is that these are investigation processes. And he cant explain how European law handles such investigation as he has zero knowledge of european. So my advice to this fool is to think before writing a comment or go to a mental hospital for checkup.
@Robin. Your original statement was that “the fool here is you african population in Norway is composed of both Christians and muslims at the same percentage.”( Robben / May 25 2012 8:12 am) Wow! That is completely different as to what you are claiming you said! I guess your not even keeping track of what your saying. Perhaps it is you with the mental instability, but more likely you are just stupid. Your head must be at its maximum capacity trying to fill it with your memorization of the great book. This must make life difficult for you since you can’t read very well either because as I have repeated mentioned, as well as provided the source address, the source and figures I used were indeep for the population of the countries of origin and not for the immigrants to Norway. You simply had bad figures. An example of your bad figures is the fact that you assume the population of these countries can only be muslim or Christian, where in reality in some of these countries there are large populations practicing indigenous religions.
As to your statement concerning “argument of 5 men gangraping a girl like evidence could destroyed. Now this was not in her initial argument so he adds new information in every comment.” There you go again with your Koran school logic. “he adds new information in every comment”. Once time I give you a possible example and in your mind it becomes “every”. You must be a really charming boyfriend/husband with your hasty generalizations. I gave an example of how there could be no medical evidence against the men. The basic concept of there being no medical evidence hasn’t changed. Yet, you still have failed to explain sharia law on this issue. The facts are simple, a woman was clearly gang raped but there is medical evidence as to who did it. The victim identifies and accuses 5 men of the crime. She has admitted that she had “sex” and the men deny participation. What does sharia law say should be done and how is sharia law applied in muslim countries to such cases? I asked you first so I don’t feel as though I need to answer you about European laws before you have given me a reasoned answer to my question. Simply because I am waiting for you to answer my question doesn’t necessitate that I don’t understand European law. Why don’t you just answer?
Another example of your Koran logic : “And he cant explain how European law handles such investigation as he has zero knowledge of european.” It is amazing how you make these groundless assertions. To say that I have zero knowledge of Europe (not European) is ridiculous. I have already demonstrated knowledge as to the history of some northern European languages and people. This would contradict your assertion that I know zero about Europe, yet you still make ridiculous rhetorical statements. What are you 12 years old? You argue like a small child. All you can do is espouse a plethora of insults but you are incapable of basic logic or of even remembering your previous statements.
What a fool this greendiamond is she said in the start that african in Norway means muslim (ie she was concludiing that about 95% Norway Africans are muslims) and that was clearly prooven be be false. This fool doesnt read her previous comments. Now coming to the next part she didnt wrote what the European laws would have done with that imaginery story she built and by the way what all she is argueing about is the police investigation processes. How the police will investigate the case. What all techniques will the police use to find out the truth for example medical evidence , witnesses , finding out from people who know the culprits if they know where they were during the crime was commited , using the lie detector test etc The question should be what would have happenend after the rape is prooven. And the answer is according to sharia law all of the rapists would have been stoned to death but according to European they would have got a maximum punishment of 5 years.
@Robin Sorry idiot boy, but where did I say that 95% of Norwegian Africans are muslim? I can’t seem to find that??
As to the example gang rape, I did not argue at all about the police investigation processes, all I did was tell you that there was no medical evidence. As to “The question should be what would have happenend after the rape is prooven.” Again, you are completely wrong. The question I am asking is quite simple but you are either avoiding answering or too incompetent to understand. The core issue here is that according to applied Islamic rules the woman, by reporting the rape, is admitting to having fornicated. If the men deny it (and there is no evidence to prove they committed the act) then the woman’s testimony doesn’t count against the men (even if it was only one man raping her) since a woman’s testimony is not equal to a man’s. So the men are not guilty of rape and the woman is punished (100 lashes) for admitting that she fornicated. That is not much of an incentive for a woman to report being raped, unless she has 4 witnesses, which even you stated early is unlikely since the witnesses would stop the rape.
“but according to European they would have got a maximum punishment of 5 years” Here again you demonstrate your ignorance. The is no such thing as European law concerning rape. Each European country has its own set of laws concerning rape (and the different types of rape) and different rules for sentancing. In the recent case of 7 afgani men gang raping a Swedish mother of 2 (naturally she was a blonde) for 7 hours, some of the “men” were sentenced to more than 5 years. http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/sju-domda-for-gruppvaldtakt_6987885.svd
More questions for the foolish ones (atheists):
- Why has the murder rate and total number of murders in Norway substantially decreased from 2000 to 2009? Is it because murder rates are nearly impossible to fake and rape rates easy to fake?
Norway’s murder rate in 2000: 1.07
Norway’s murder rate in 2009: 0.60
This means Norway has one of the very lowest murder rates in the world, like the 5th lowest among the entire world.
If these Muslims are committing so much rape and assault then why has the murder rate in Norway substantially decreased? Are the fools arguing that Muslims are committing so much assault, rape, and crime but just some how decided not to murder? That makes lots of sense, lol.
If the assaults have gone up why has the murder rate and number of murders substantially decreased?
The assaults and rapes in Norway must be so non-violent that they do not cause the murder rate or the total number of murders to increase.
The murder rate is very objective and nearly impossible to fake so this simply indicates that what’s going on in Norway and Sweden is the rate of reporting rapes has increased and that it’s easier for Norwegians/Swedes to report non-Westerners (especially Middle Easterners).
In other words all that’s increased is the rate of reporting rapes because of the atheism/racism in those countries.
Falsely reporting rapes is easy.
Falsely reporting murders is nearly impossible.
Countries that actually have high rape rates like Lesotho and Trinidad also have high murder rates. Norway and Sweden on the other hand have some of the very lowest murder rates in the entire world but some of the highest rape rates.
So I already know that racism has caused atheists/racists in Norway and Sweden to report rapes more. They modified their rape laws and started reporting rapes more to make it seem as if rapes increased to push Nazi/nationalism when in reality it hasn’t.
The swedish government doesn’t keep Religious affiliation of its criminals. Its illegal due to freedom of religion laws. The Swedish stats on muslim assult rape (not assaults ‘and’ rape!) are taken frm investigations of arrest, charging and/or convictions depending on the study. All say above 85% of the ‘assualt rapes’ records. Despite there only being 420,000 muslims in a country of 9.5 million (they are circa 5% of the pop) they comit 85% of the 1200 ‘assualt rapes’ eacy year. The is 1000 a year where the majority of times it involves 2 or more (recently had 9 muslims here who lied about their age to come here as UN defined orphaned children under of war) raped a blond swedish mother of 2. She was gang raped for 7 hours. She was in a psych ward for over a month and couldn’t control her bowls for 2 weeks. Nice, that they said alla said they were allowed to rape the enemy!!
Plus! The man in the sky is just as old as theism. Theism as we speak of it is a nasty little inventions of the semite cultures. Probably influenced by Ra the much older sun god who had a shared supremacy with his wife. The semites don’t like women having any poser so they got rid of the wife!! Theism is as young as the old man in the sky.
Sorry if I left out replies to some of your questions but you have the awkward habit asking too many questions at one and so many of them are repitition of you failing argument. I recognize them as such and quickly dismiss them as meaningless.
So assualts haven’t gone up and murder hasn’t gone up….. Makes you wonder if the muslims aren’t so interested in picking fights with with the locals men although they seem highly motivated attacking the woman. Swedes are big grown up men, a woman is a much weaker target. But if you do look at assault and murder charges then you will see tht muslims will be grossly over represented here considering tht they are only 5% of the population. All muslims are not rapists but considering tht 10,000 swedish girls and woman have been assault raped(1000 a year) by 5% of the population. The figure of 420,000 is probably over represented of ‘practicing’ muslims but they have the muslim culture and values. The figure comes frm the head of swedens largest muslim organization, so it is probably less who practice since they probably give an inflated figure because he is also a polition who was in parlamint for a while. He was in a party who supported immagrant issues. So have of them are men. 210,000. The assault rapes in number were 10,000. Over half had ‘atleast’ 2 rapists and there are many who have 6-10 rapists. It is reasonable to assume that will produce atleast 15,000 muslim males committed rape on swedish woman (prodominantly blond). 15,000 out of 210,000 will give you tht 7% of the muslim population has assault raped a swedish blond of his dreams. Tht is some pretty crazy raping for some ‘non atheists’. As to Switzerland, well the little chicken shit 7% of the swiss muslims who want to be rapists are too afraid of the giant Swiss women who were kick their muslim asses if they tried anything. Swiss woman hold their alcohol. The vast majority of cases in the Brå link I gave you show the victoms of the rapes of the assualt rapes by muslims were drunk and defenseless at the time.
By the way! The violance and harrasment against Jews in Sweden has been isolated to Malma, a city in the south with a large immagrant, muslim, population with very high criminality, especial involving guns and rape. It is these muslim who are racist against the Jews. Ironically, it is mainly the Arab populations, who are semites, who are commiting the *anti-semite’ racist violance and harrassment!
This just seems to be an anti-atheist site. Why bother? It just looks silly to see to many people demonising atheists who are all different types of people. They just don’t believe a big man in the sky imagined them into existance because he so desparately needed someone to worship him. They don’t go raping anyone because of some “holy” book that tells them they are supposed to do so.
I don’t believe a big man in the sky stupid. God had never been defined as a “big man in the sky” and historically Theists never had believed so up until relatively recently (specifically because of media lies).
So your argument is just a straw man.
Thanks for demonstrating the typical subhuman atheist mind.
Only *recently*???? How do you define *recently*? Is Michealangelo part of this Media Lies you are refering to? That little painting in the Sestene Chapel show an old man in the sky!!!!
You are really just an idiot, aren’t you?!
Here’s some questions for atheists/rapists in Sweden:
- Where’s the factual report detailing the rapes?
- What’s the reason that Sweden’s rape rate has risen dramatically but Sweden’s murder rate has decreased slightly (Sweden has one of the lowest murder rates in the world)? All the other countries that have rape rates above 30 have much higher murder rates than Sweden, how is this possible?
Is it because murder rates are nearly impossible to fake and that rape rates are easy to fake?
- What’s the reason that other atheist countries with low Muslim populations also have high rape rates?
- If the Sweden Democrat’s figure of 48% of rapes being foreign in origin (not necessarily Muslim in origin) is true, then Sweden would have a rape rate very close to New Zealand’s with a 0% foreign population.
So with a 0% foreign population Sweden’s rape rate is nearly the same as New Zealand’s, why is this?
People just have to realize the truth: atheists have a tendency to rape.
Without the ‘muslim 7%’ rapists then the assault rape as a percent of total rapes would drop frm its shocking rate of 1200 a year down to 200 a year represented by the atheist population. Saving 10,000 rapes in the last 10 years but still with the horrible 2000 caused by europeans during the samr period. This would bring assault rape in sweden from 1200 out of 6000 reported today to 200 out of 6000, which is circa 3%. This is more inline with the US 5% who deals with the black population who represent 70% of the rapes of black woman despite them only being 8-10% depending how you define ‘african america’ how much white in them and they can still be called black?
Interestingly white men represent less than 0.5% of rape on black woman! A little off the point but still an interesting fact. I am not going to bother and reference anything because you appear to have so little facts tht I would have to reference so much basic information for you. This is too tedious since you know so little. You should check the facts yourself and try using sources tht are not tabloids.
One explanation is that Sweden tracks rape differently. Take the example of a woman coming into the police station saying that she has just been raped by her exhusband. During questioning it is revieled that he had raped her about once a month for 2 years while they were married. Six more times after their divorce and once just now. In some countries a husband cannot rape his wife. He can do what he wants with her whenever he wants. So these don’t count as rape. In civilized countries it is a crime to force yourself onto a unwilling female and its a crime to have any type of sex with children (up to 15-18 years of age depending uponn the country). But in most countries, this woman’s story would only end up being reported as ONE rape, while in Sweden it would count as 31. Thus what is one rape in other countries is counted as 31 in Sweden. That is part of the explanation as to why Sweden’s rape rate is as high as it is compared to other countries.
So, there are a bunch of males from Muslim countries running around assault (grave) raping blond girls because they think they have the right to rape the enemy. Plus, the more accurate reporting technique of the total rapes. Plus, the fact that Swedes have a high date rape rate because of the Swedish males and females going home together drunk at night and the woman wanting to stop things before the guy is ready to stop. Alcohol and lust is not a good combination in a Swedish male. They don’t understand that NO means NO. But they feel that “If you don’t want the geni to come out then don’t rub the bottle (lamp). Instead, the Swedish girls desperate need for attention and inability to hold her alcohol leads her home with him (his place or her’s). Very often the girl passes out and wakes up with clothing on wrong and a funny taste in her mouth (did I not meantion that Swedish men are not circumsized). She claims rape. The old Swedish law said that if a woman was too drunk to resist then she was not raped. This law changed a few years ago and the reports of this sort of crime skyrocketed. Prior to the new law, these rapes were occuring but woman were just told that it isn’t a crime so they went unreported. This new definition of law where drunkiness was no longer permission to have sex caused the number of rapes to increase by definition not in number. But we have seen an increase in the report of these types of rapes each year after the redefinition. That explains more of why Sweden has such a high rape rate.
Do you need more?
I’ve repeatedly asked for the actual report from low-life atheists and I’ve all gotten are rants and rumors.
I’m not interested in hearing your rants. I heard some low-life atheists claim that 100% of the rapes in Norway were committed by Muslims but then I read the actual report:
“The majority of registered perpetrators in cases of reported rape in Oslo in 2010 have Norwegian citizenship, as has been the case in every previous rape study. In 2010 this went for 61.2% of the perpetrators, which is relatively stable compared to the material from 2007 (60.3%). A relatively high proportion, 12.5%, of the registered perpetrators are from other parts of Europe, and taken together almost three quarters of the perpetrators in 2010 have European citizenship. For the rest, 10.5% are from Africa, 9.2% from the Middle East, 4.6% from Asia and 2% from America.” – https://www.politi.no/vedlegg/lokale_vedlegg/oslo/Vedlegg_1309.pdf , pg 52
A higher percentage of rapes come from African and European immigrants in Oslo, Norway than from Middle Eastern immigrants, but if I hadn’t read the actual report I would’ve probably believed in the intentional lies atheists spout.
No other group of people take as much pleasure in telling lies as the atheists do.
Perhaps you should look to specify your definition of “rape”. Try looking at BRÅ.se for statistics on the different kinds of rape as defined by Swedish Law. Assault rapes are dominated by you guys (muslims like itsnobody).
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article10698228.ab
Byt the way, The Local is not a good source of information nor a legitimate newspaper. It is a tabloid newspaper set up by expats who mainly bitch about the Swedish system they choose to live under.
If you think tht it would be so easy to stop your brothers from rapeing (you state that it should be easy to stop muslims from raping) then why would you not lead the way? Why would you not be out there stopping them? What kind of person are you to sit by when you could do something?
If I had really been a Muslim then why would I constantly defend the Jews for? Muslims are usually anti-Zionist and side with atheists on hating Jews and Israel.
I’m not a Muslim “brother”. I’m trying to find out the actual truth.
What is a legitimate Swedish newspaper and what is your reason for not considering The Local as legitimate? Most of the news stories from The Local are factual and are reported by other newspapers as well.
That link you provided says “Cultural differences and religion as an explanation for rape is nonsense, says Jerzy Sarnecki, a professor of criminology”. The link you provided also does not talk about Muslims just immigrants in Sweden, the majority of immigrants in Sweden are European.
I don’t really know if it would be easy to get Muslims to stop raping, I’m just trying to find the actual data and actual truth.
Her is the newsreport and police interviews from the national tv channel 1 in Norways, with translation. Please note they are referring to gröv våldtäkt (assault rape) and not rape where the perpetrator was known to the victim.
Don’t be gullible and stupid you idiot. That video is about a sum total of 6 assault rapes where Norwegian police identified and charged the rapist, so that video should really be called “A sum total of 6 assault rapes where the Norwegian police identified the rapist were all non-Westerners”
In reality a sum total of 22 assault rapes occurred in Norway, 5 of which were from Europeans, 3 from Middle Easterners, 9 from Africans, and 5 from Asians, but the Norwegian police only identified and charged the non-Western rapists
So with assault rapes most come from Africans, then Europeans, Asians, and lastly Middle-Easterners
Read the official Oslo police report – https://www.politi.no/vedlegg/lokale_vedlegg/oslo/Vedlegg_1309.pdf
Interesting tht the video linked below was removed frm Youtube shortly after I put the link up on your site. Again, it showed a national news broadcaste with a spokesperson frm the norwegian police stating tht 100% of the assault rapes(involving violence when the perpetrator is unknown to the victim) were commited by foreign, non europeans (mostly Kurds and Africans).
Tht report you linked to (in Norewegian) was crap. Just because you put a link up doesn’t mean the link actually says anything.
Lol it’s not crap it’s the official police report from Norwegian police web site https://www.politi.no/vedlegg/lokale_vedlegg/oslo/Vedlegg_1309.pdf
Maybe you should read it instead of being a gullible idiot.
What the hell are you talking about? Muslim immigrants – or better, “refugees”, are mostly uncivilized, uneducated and they never want to integrate. Hell! You say you’re not liked in some place? So what? Get out of here! It’s quite obvious locals don’t wanna see your stupid prayers around and the way you treat your women (as animals, and local women too), for example. Your muslim people, them and only them are guilty for how people think of them. Stop spreading this bullshit about “poor discriminated muslims”. They should never had started what the had. Don’t like something? Get the hell out to some Iraq or whatever, burn cars on the streets… When you come to ANOTHER country, YOU HAVE TO adopt its culture. Not bring yours and try to spread it there. Or there’ll be another Hitler who this time will burn not Jews but muslims, and locals will be glad to execute orders.
Yeah yeah yeah I’ve already heard all this anti-Islam stuff before, it’s boring and cliche-ish.
Why don’t you and your other low-life atheist friends provide the factual report so that everyone can see. I had already been tricked into believing the Norway Muslim rape lie until I read the actual report.
Atheists are definitely the lowest possible form of life, always out to rape and spread lies.
Iteresting the way you changed your argument there!!! Funny!! Plus, besides being funny(!) you are also missing the point. The africans in norway are somalians, muslims. The “4 europeans” were the muslims who had european passports!! Ha ha ha
Plus, I gave you the reasons as to why The Local sucks as a source. So read what I wrote! And if the information is also writen in other newspapers then give their links!! I live in Sweden and everyone knows about the local and the anti swedish forums bitching about how swedes and sweden sucks by a bunch of native english language expats!! Tht is their target market so they write shit tht those idiots like to hear. We all know this, especially us expats understand why we continue to live here. We know which news papers are tabloids just as you know the National Enquire tht you subscribe to is a tabloid but you have to believe it when it tells you what you want to hear!!
So the increase in reported rapes in Sweden is due to false reports, so does this increase in false reports mean atheists are committing more false rapes? Is it that the increase in false rapes is due to a sudden and massive increase in the number of atheists in Sweden? What point are you attempting to make here?
Not quite sure where or why Lesotho comes into your commentary, but is the high rate of rape there due to the 100% atheist popluation there? I’ve been led to believe by the statistics that Lesotho was predominantly Christian, but what would I know.
why are muslims being blamed for rape in the first place, I never came across the shariah punishment for rape but im sure the rapist doesnt get away free.
and its funny what some people have replied to this article, who said that if a women gets raped she gets punished, i hope you are not confusing the quran with the bible.
Bible says: “A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist (if they are “found”)- (Deut 22:28-29) “if a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives” Deuteronomy 22:28-30
please in future please ask me about islam not some next website
personally rape has really gotten out of hand in europe, and i mean really out of hand, i remember going to a UK college and one student was talking about rape and some worker in the college, and i remember walking with him once along with another class mate and he was talking about rape again,
http://salafimedia.com/muslimah/item/578-women-in-the-quraan-and-women-in-the-bible.html
There was study done in 2009 by the EU to determine if the increase in rape reports in Sweden was due to change in reporting and/or change in law. The report showed that this was not the case and that there simply was an increase in the number of rapes in Sweden during 1990 to 2008.
Do you have a link to the study?
If this study is true then why does Switzerland have a much much lower rape rate than Sweden and why does New Zealand have such a high rape rate?
The rape rate in Switzerland has actually DECREASED from 2008 to 2009, so how do atheists/racists explain that?
New Zealand has had a rape crisis problems since at least 1999 when the Muslim population in NZ had been virtually non-existent (and still is extremely low today).
Just because muslims rape a lot in some countries does not mean that they are the only people who rape. Just because atheists in one country don’t rape doesn’t mean that atheists in every country don’t rape. mf
48% of reported rapes in Sweden are committed by Muslim immagrents. 85% of alll rape convictions are perpetrated by muslim immagrants and their Swedish born children. I don’t know…. seems kinda obvious to me that they are the ones doing it. But I guess that someone like you thinks that a woman who isn’t dressed the way you want women to dress is asking to be raped and it is her fault.
Plus, Swedes are so racist then why are they bringing all of these non Swedes to Sweden. Your source for the number of Muslims in Sweden is based on a small sample size survey and the report states that it has a large margin of error. The official count by the Swedish government central statistis agency is 420,000 muslims. This number is confirmed by many other surveys.
Any link to that report?
Where did you get the idea that I think “that a woman who isn’t dressed the way you want women to dress is asking to be raped and it is her fault”? I don’t think any women deserves to be raped like atheists do, but knowing how sexist atheists are I’m sure lots of atheists believe that.
Bringing immigrants in doesn’t indicate that you’re non-racist fool, so many studies have indicated that Sweden is super-racist.
The racism in Sweden is also against Jews and Africans as well.
Even if there are 420,000 Muslims in Sweden now it still wouldn’t change that nearly ALL other countries with a higher percentage of Muslims and a higher total Muslim population have much much lower rape rates than Sweden.
As usual you keep mentioning things but do not provide any sources to back up your claims.
Could you please provide links to the ‘so many studies’ tht have shown tht Swedes are super racist?
Considering tht Sweden’s 9 million people give $4 billion in government funded foreign aid out each year (compared to the US’s $24 billion from 315 million people) then they look like rather generous super-racists when you factor in tht this money is prodomenantly going to non-white countries (plus, the fact tht the recipient countries are religious, non-christians).
Pointing out government actions means nothing fool. Just face the facts Swedes like all liberal atheists are the most disgusting racist people that exist in the world.
But I forgot Swedes don’t consider racial discrimination to be racism, so they probably won’t consider themselves as racist.
The only thing atheist Swedes consider as racism is something like pulling out a gun and killing a non-white, that’s it. Swedes don’t consider anything besides violent actions to be racist.
- http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=EJ694844&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ694844
- http://www.worlddialogue.org/content.php?id=156
- http://scholarworks.umass.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1640&context=theses&sei-redir=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3Dsweden%2520racism%2520study%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCkQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fscholarworks.umass.edu%252Fcgi%252Fviewcontent.cgi%253Farticle%253D1640%2526context%253Dtheses%26ei%3Dm0hUT9exNYbd0QHdpqC7DQ%26usg%3DAFQjCNGFHAmjb55Gxg3MNgaYrTY1ZINVoA#search=%22sweden%20racism%20study%22
- https://psyk.uu.se/digitalAssets/20/20025_Akrami-Ekehammar-Araya-2000-EJSP.pdf
I can also point out countless racist events that occur in the low population (< than 9.5 million) atheist country called Sweden.
These links don’t reveal anything!! Three don’t have any information what so ever tht is releavent to the discussion (no statistical info). The last one is not about Swedes being comparatively racist, instead it is about two small studies (circa 400 Swedes) done mainly on college students. It doesn’t show tht they are particularly racist, instead, it shows tht racist terminology has changed into a less blattant form, kinda showing some of your other statements to be wrong, eg muslims and jews can’t go out in public because of the blatant racism in Sweden.
Do you actually read these links you put up?
Yeah it’s the same argument: “Nothing can be considered as evidence that Sweden or any atheist country is racist”
Getting Muslims to stop raping should be relatively easy since no mainstream form of Islam accepts rape as lawful.
The best strategy for dealing with Muslims is just to get them to be more moderate.
But I guess blaming Muslims is an excellent strategy Swedes can use knowing that so many different groups already hate Muslims. Based on my research most of the rape in Sweden just has to do with a change in rape laws, not with Muslims.
I hope Sweden expels all Muslims so people can see how high the rape rate would be with a 0% Muslim population. You can already calculate what Sweden’s rape rate would be with a 0% Muslim population.
On the other hand I don’t really know what I can do about getting atheists to stop raping. I know a few Muslims and none of them are rapists, I know lots of atheists and one of them is a rapist (but has never been reported).
I don’t really know what society can do to get atheists to stop raping.
The simple fact is atheists are uncivilized and are always out to rape.
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. “atheists are uncivilized and are always out to rape”. Ha ha ha If you were to bother and check then you would see that 14% of the US population consider themselves to be non religious or athiestic yet the prison population in the US is less than 0.5% nonreligious or atheistic. Seems to me that it is believers who are the rapists and other criminals and the atheists who are the civilized ones in US society.
It’s just distorted statistics. It’s very easy to skew statistics like these. I’m wondering if the same methodology that was used to gather the 14% of the US population number is also the same methodology used to gain the 0.5% number (probably not).
I wonder why you said “non-religious or atheist” instead of just “atheist”. It’s a common trick atheists use to distort and skew statistics.
The prison population also has to do with police targeting, wealth, income and many other variables as well fool.
It’s the exact same reasoning that racists use, but then again basically 100% of white atheists are racist.
“Getting Muslims to stop raping should be relatively easy since no mainstream form of Islam accepts rape as lawful.”
You are a complete fool. Mohammed would behead male prisoners in front of their wives then take the wives and rape them. Rape was a favorite weapon of Mohammed. He was a psychopath and the Qur’an demands all Muslims be just like him.
The Qur’an orders all Muslim men to rape non-Muslim women at will because non-believers are “impure” and not really human. It is forbidden for a Muslim to ever befriend an unbeliever.
In a Muslim country (Saudi Arabia) a non-Muslim woman or man cannot bring any charges against a Muslim man in any Sharia court. A “Dhimmi” has no rights under Sharia law.
Muslims raping and pillaging Swedes (non-believers) is not only legal under Sharia, the Qur’an commands that they do it as part of jihad to conquer and enslave you.
Read the Qur’an and wise up. Muslims are in Sweden to conquer you. At some point, when you resist, they will eagerly murder you.
lol so why do the other countries not have as high rape rates despite having higher Muslim populations for?
There’s no mainstream form of Islam that believes that raping a Muslim or non-Muslim is lawful. The majority of Muslims don’t believe in any kind of pre-Martial sex.
If Muslims really are the cause of the rape in atheist countries then atheists should provide actual evidence.
I don’t believe in following the Qu’ran or Old Testament (they are very similar).
As for Muhammad, here’s what he says about women:
“Women are the twin halves of men”
“The acquisition of knowledge is a duty incumbent on every Muslim, male and female.”
“God enjoins you to treat women well, for they are your mothers, daughters, aunts”
It should be very easy to get the Muslims who are raping to interpret Islam in a way that disallows any kind of rape.
On the other hand how can I get atheists to stop raping?
Having known the type of people atheists are, I know that they are prone to rape. But I don’t really know that many Muslims so I’m not really sure who is out to rape more.
Well Well… Looks like more rape apologetics from the religion of peace. Why am I not surprised.
Read the Koran and what it says about women. Also google what happens to women and boys who are raped. 100 lashes. A 4 year old died in pakistan because she was raped and they whipped her in accordince with the koran.
I’m not a Muslim so I don’t really care much about the Koran. I’m sure you can find passages against women in the Bible as well (even though most Jews and Christians don’t follow it), Michelle Bachmann actually pointed out one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z3Ov-2mPYc).
Once again another delusional atheist unable to handle the truth that atheists are inherently sick people always out to rape.
Why can’t atheists answer the question as to why New Zealand has a high rape rate and why almost ALL the other countries with a higher percentage of Muslims than Sweden have lower rape rates than Sweden?
How can almost ALL other countries with a higher percentage of Muslims have lower rape rates than Sweden?
lol I guess atheists just can’t handle the truth
48% of reported rapes in Sweden are committed by Muslim immagrents. 85% of alll rape convictions are perpetrated by muslim immagrants and their Swedish born children. I don’t know…. seems kinda obvious to me that they are the ones doing it. But I guess that someone like you thinks that a woman who isn’t dressed the way you want women to dress is asking to be raped and it is her fault.
The official count by the Swedish government central statistis agency is 420,000 muslims. This number is confirmed by many other surveys, as well as, officials from Muslim organizations.
Since 1990, When the Muslim population was circa 40,000 till now the rape rate in Sweden has rison by a factor of 3 (rape fo of under 15 year old girls has gone up by a factor of 6). 85% of these rapes are commited by Muslims, not atheists. These rapists tend to be more religious. Examples are the brutal gang rape of a 12 year old by 4 Kurdish men . They beat and raped the 12 year old for several hours and took photos of the acts. In 2006 an18 year old girl was brutally beaten and gang raped by 4 somalie men. The muslims dominate the taxi business and at least once a month a white Swedish female passanger is kidnapped and driven out to remote areas where the drivers friends meet up with the driver and gang rape the girl.
This is the reality of the situation.
You keep mentioning things yet you haven’t provided even one source to back up your claims.
When did Sweden have a Muslim population size of 420,000 and what was the Muslim population in 2000-2005?
Considering that Sweden’s rape rate hasn’t changed much since 2008 even though Sweden’s Muslim population has changed since then the rape law change hypothesis fits in with the data much better than the Muslim rape hypothesis.
Switzerland has around the same percentage of Muslims as Sweden yet a much lower rape rate, no racist/atheist has yet explained how or why.
Switzerland also has a lower murder rate as well.
Muslims run amok in Sweden and Norway because they understand that Swedish and Norwegian men will cower before them and actually deliver their wives, daughters and little boys to them for their pleasure.
Muslims understand that for the past four generations, Swedes and Norwegians have been dumbed-down and morally weakened that they can do what they want to you and you will do nothing but give them more money.
Unless and until Swedes and Norwegians grow a pair; man-up and throw these 7th Century thugs and perverts out of your countries, you’re going to get what you deserve from them.
lol Norwegians and Swedes can’t be that stupid?
So the Swiss don’t conform to Muslim needs but Swedes and Norwegians do, is that what you’re implying?
If so what does killing blacks and beating Jews have to do with Muslims?
White atheist Swedes love to tell people that they the racial discrimination in Sweden is against Muslims only, but in reality it’s against Jews, Africans, and also Eastern Europeans as well, not just Muslims.
In Sweden consensual sexual intercourse without a condom can be considered as rape.
It’s quite obvious that Sweden’s high rape rate is caused by the rape laws and that Muslims are the easiest target for atheists.
You’re an idiot with an agenda.
My only agendas are to find out the truth, end racism, and make this world Utopia-like.
It seems that you and all your other atheist friends are the ones with agendas.
According to atheists it’s just by magic that Switzerland has a lower rape rate and murder rate.
Can anyone explain how I can get atheists to stop raping?
The truth is Mohammed sodomized Aisia, his wife from age 6, and raped her at age 9. Mohammed had sex with his dead aunt. Mohammed enjoyed beheading defeated infidels in front of their wives then he would take the newly made widows and rape them while the images of death and horror were fresh in their minds. Mohammed was a psychopath and a malignant narcissist yet the Qur’an defines him as “the perfect man” that all Muslim men must strive to become.
Pedophillia, bestiality, misogyni, hebephillia, sodomy, rape, pillage, plunder and murder are the true pillars of Islam. Deception and terror are their most potent weapons.
Your attempt to shift the argument to atheists is simply psychotic.
Delusional!? You’re the one who’s delusional. Im a Christian. My Bible states clearly that rape is a death penalty crime while your gutter cult extols it. There needs to be 4 witnesses and they can just turn around and say that its the victims fault just like in Pakistan.
Im pretty sure you are a Mudsime. YOu talk like one. The only way were gonna stop rape in Sweeden is if we deport these terrrorists and their supporter.s
Most r apes in Sweden are committed by Swedish men. (There are no statistics on Swedish females homo or hetero). They are the majority of the male population and therefor commit the majority rapes. They are over represented in “date” rape rates but grossly under represented in assault (grave) rape. first or second generation muslims account for 78% of those types of rapes despite them only being 4% of the population. By “muslim” I mean males from prodomimently muslim influentced cultures. That is not to say that a proper oman would call these males proper muslims. Perhaps they never went to mosk nor had allah in their hearts. But the culture created by islamic traditions taught these males their values. For example, all of that crazy raping of your enemies, child bride etc etc. Perhaps these values from the good book are having a negative impact on the true teachings of the good book which are basically a rip off of Old and New Testament stories that the great profit heard on his wanderingful youth as a traveling salesman. He does tell a great tale!!
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
firstly the bible (obviously the one that has been distorted not how it was revealed) says that the rape victim has to marry the rapist,
Bible says: “A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist (if they are “found”)- (Deut 22:28-29) “if a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives” Deuteronomy 22:28-30
secondly you do not have a clue about the shariah, in future please ask scholars
thirdly pakistan is not a islamic state, it is a secularist state. the last islamic state was probably when the taliban ruled from 1996 to 2001, and then before that probably the caliphate. (and before you start bringing basless rumours about the taliban they have there own website http://shahamat-english.com/)
fourthly 100 lashes is for the unmarried fornicator (whether male or female)
fifthly the quran can be read at http://www.quran.com
sixthly heres what the quran and bible says about women
Qur’ân: “And the believers, men and women, are protecting friends one of another; they enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and they establish worship and they pay the poor-due, and they obey Allâh and His messenger. As for these, Allâh will have mercy on them. Lo! Allâh is mighty, wise.” (9):71
Qur’ân: “And they (women) have rights similar to those of men over them in a just manner” (2):228
Qur’ân: “Whoso does an ill deed, he will be repaid the like thereof, while whoso does right, whether male or female, and is a believer, (all) such will enter the garden, where they will be nourished without stint.” (40):40.
Bible: “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
Bible says: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.” (1 Corinthians 14:34)
Bible says: “Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as christ also is the head of the church, he himself being the savior of the body. But as the church is subject to christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.” (Ephesians 5:22-24)
Qur’ân: “And of His signs is this: he created for you spouses from yourselves that you might find tranquillity in them, and he ordained between you love and mercy. Lo, herein indeed are signs for folk who reflect.” (30):21
The Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said: “The best believers are the best in conduct, and the best of you are those who are best to their wives.” (Tirmidhi) narrated by Abû Hurayrah
Bible: “A bad wife brings humiliation, downcast looks, and a wounded heart. Slack of hand and weak of knee is the man whose wife fails to make him happy. Woman is the origin of sin, and it is through her that we all die. Do not leave a leaky cistern to drip or allow a bad wife to say what she likes. If she does not accept your control, divorce her and send her away” (Ecclesiasticus 25:25).
Qur’ân: “…But consort with them in kindness, for if you hate them it may happen that you hate a thing wherein Allâh has placed much good.” (4):19
Bible: If a father / husband does not endorse his daughter’s / wife’s vows, all pledges made by her become null and void, in other words a woman cannot make any contract on her own without the permission of a husband or father: “but if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand ….Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself” (Numbers. 30:2-15)
In Islam a woman’s wealth is her own and her husband has no rights over it:
Qur’ân: “…and covet not the thing in which Allâh has made some of you excel others. Unto men a fortune from that which they have earned, and unto women a fortune from that which they have earned. (Envy not one another) but ask Allâh of his bounty. Verily! Allâh is knower of all things.” (4):32.
Bible says: “A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist (if they are “found”)- (Deut 22:28-29) “if a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives” Deuteronomy 22:28-30
Qur’ân: “And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations) – flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors” (24:4)
The Bible blames Eve for the original sin: (genesis 3:12-16) “and the man (Adam) said, the woman (Eve) whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. And the Lord god said unto the woman, what is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, the serpent beguiled me, and I did eat..unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
In the Qur’ân, both Adam and Eve share the blame for eating from the tree. This can be seen in the Qur’ân in such verses al-Baqarah (2):36, al-A’raf (7):22-24. They were also both forgiven by God Almighty for this sin.
Qur’ân: “O Adam dwell with your wife in the garden and enjoy as you wish but approach not this tree or you run into harm and transgression. Then satan whispered to them in order to reveal to them their shame that was hidden from them and he said: ‘your Lord only forbade you this tree lest you become angels or such beings as live forever.’ And he swore to them both that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought them to their fall: when they tasted the tree their shame became manifest to them and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: ‘did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that satan was your avowed enemy?’ They said: ‘our Lord we have wronged our own souls and if You forgive us not and bestow not upon us Your mercy, we shall certainly be lost’ ” (7:19-23).
The Bible says that giving birth to a female child makes a woman more “unclean” than if she had a male child. Leviticus 12:2-5 “Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, if a woman have conceived seed, and born a male child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying thirty three days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying sixty six days.”
Ecclesiastics 7:26-28 “and I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare….While I was still searching but not finding, I found one upright man among a thousand but not one upright woman among them all.”
Qur’ân: “And their Lord has heard them (and he says): Verily! I suffer not the work of any worker, male or female, to be lost. You proceed one from another.” (3):195.
Qur’ân: “And whoso does good works, whether of male or female, and he (or she) is a believer, such will enter paradise and they will not be wronged the dint in a date stone.” The Noble Qur’ân, an-Nisâ (4):124.
Qur’ân: “Whosoever does right, whether male or female, and is a believer, him verily we shall quicken with good life, and We shall pay them a recompense in proportion to the best of what they used to do.” (16):97.
“A man asked the prophet Muhammad sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam: ‘whom should I honor most?’ The prophet replied: ‘Your mother’. ‘And who comes next?’ Asked the man. The prophet replied: ‘Your mother’. ‘And who comes next?’ Asked the man. The prophet replied: ‘Your mother’. ‘And who comes next?’ Asked the man. The prophet replied: ‘Your father’ ” (Bukhari and Muslim).
Bible says that a woman must cover her head as a sign of man’s authority over her:
“And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head – it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head” (1 Corinthians 11:3-10).
Bible: 1 corinthians 11:5-10: “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head.”
Bible: 1 corinthians 11:13: “Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto god (with her head) uncovered?”
The Qur’ân teaches that a woman must be covered out of modesty and to protect her from harassment:
Qur’ân: “Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty……And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms….” (24:30,31).
Qur’ân “O prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies (when abroad) so that they should be known and not molested” (33:59).
According to the Bible (Numbers 27:1-11), widows and sisters don’t inherit at all. Daughters can inherit only if their deceased father had no sons.
Qur’ân: “Unto the men (of a family) belongs a share of that which parents and near kindred leave, and unto the women a share of that which parents and near kindred leave, whether it be little or much, a legal share.” (4):77.
Bible: Leviticus 15:19-30 “And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even…..(It goes on and on).”
and all praises are due to Allah (god)
Qur’an (2:282) – Establishes that a woman’s testimony is worth only half that of a man’s in court (there is no “he said/she said” gridlock in Islam).
Qur’an (24:4) – “And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them…”
Qur’an (24:13) – “Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah.”
Qur’an (2:223) – “Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will…” There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.
From the Hadith:
Bukhari (5:59:462) – The background for the Qur’anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.
It is against Islam to rape Muslim women, but Muhammad actually encouraged the rape of others captured in battle. This hadith provides the context for the Qur’anic verse (4:24):
The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)
Actually, as the hadith indicates, it wasn’t Muhammad, but “Allah the Exalted” who told the men to rape the women in front of their husbands – which is all the more reason not to think of Islam as being the same as other religion.
Note also that the husbands of these unfortunate victims were obviously alive after battle. This is important because it flatly contradicts those apologists who like to argue that the women Muhammad enslaved were widowed and thus unable to fend for themselves. (Even if the apologists were right, what sort of a moral code is it that forces a widow to choose between being raped and starving?)
There are several other episodes in which Muhammad is offered the clear opportunity to disavow raping women – yet he instead offers advice on how to proceed. In one case, his men were reluctant to devalue their new slaves for later resale by getting them pregnant. Muhammad was asked about coitus interruptus in particular:
“O Allah’s Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?” The Prophet said, “Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 34:432)
As indicated, the prophet of Islam did not mind his men raping the women, provided they ejaculated within the bodies of their victims.
As one might imagine, Muhammad’s obvious approval of raping women captured in battle and his own personal participation as recorded in many places is of intense inconvenience to the Muslim apologists of our time. For this reason, some of them attempt to explain away these many episodes and Qur’anic references to sex with captives by pretending that these are cases in which women have fled bad marriages and sought refuge with the Muslims. Some apologists even refer to them as “wives,” even though the Qur’an makes a clear distinction between “those whom thy right hand possesses” and true wives (see Sura 33:50).
Beyond the desperation of the 21st century apologist however, there is absolutely nothing in the historical text that supports this rosy revision of Muslim history. The women of the Banu Mustaliq were sold into slavery following their rape:
“We went out with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter” (Sahih Muslim 3371)
In fact, female slaves were traded like any other simple commodity by Muhammad and his bad of devoted followers:
“Then the apostle sent Sa-d b. Zayd al-Ansari, brother of Abdu’l-Ashal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham/Hisham 693)
Is it Islamic to sell one’s wife for horses? Clearly these were not wives!
More importantly, by definition a “captured” woman is not one who is fleeing her husband. She is fleeing her captor (ie. the Muslim slave raider). This hadith describes a typical raid, in which the women and children are captured as they are attempting to flee the attacking Muslims:
“…and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought. Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children [escaping in the distance]. I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain. When they saw the arrow, they stopped. So I brought them, driving them along” (Sahin Muslim 4345)
The Muslim narrator (who happens to be Muhammad’s adopted son) sees the women trying to escape (following the massacre of their men) and cuts off their route by shooting an arrow into their path. These aren’t women trying to seek refuge with the Muslims. They are trying to avoid capture by the Muslims.
Mahammed was a traveling salesman and he ripped off the bible for his stories.
The actual cause of the rape in Sweden is just the change in rape laws, false rape reports, and the atheist population.
Sweden’s rape rate changed when Sweden’s rape laws changed in 2005 and people started reporting rapes more. That’s the main cause of Sweden’s high rape rates. Even a far-left liberal like Michael Moore was outraged by Sweden’s rape laws.
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=54379
“In absolute numbers, the vast majority of the perpetrators of intimate-partner violence are ‘ordinary’ Swedish men.” (Ertürk)
So even if we subtract all the Muslim rapes in Sweden, Sweden would still have a higher rape rate than New Zealand. So with a 0% Muslim population Sweden would still have a higher rape rate than New Zealand (which also has nearly no Muslims yet a high rape rate).
In reality Sweden has a very low Muslim population. Swedes are among the most disgusting and racist people in the world. Atheists already hate Muslims, so they know they can blame all their problems on Muslims knowing that other groups will be so gullible as to join them in hatred. Swedes all know that if they say Muslims are the cause of all the rape and crime in Sweden it will be easy to get lots of groups to join in hatred and it would also support anti-immigrant nationalist parties in Sweden.
Here is a link to a graph showing the increase in reported rape in Sweden. There is a distinct increase beginning in the 80s when there was a large number of Iranian and northe Aftrican refugees came to Sweden. Again, in the early 90s with the Balkan war refugees and then a steady increased rate nearly year for year. There is a marked increase in 2005 when their was a change in the legal definition of rape and again a few years later with change in reporting methods.
http://justice4assange.com/Sexual-Offences.html
People have to realize what atheists/rapists are trying to do society before they take over other countries and regions.
Even if Norway, Sweden and any other atheist/racist country had a 0% Muslim population they would still have extremely high rape rates.
The atheists’ only argument is that only some select Muslim immigrants who go to atheist/racist countries are raping but for some reason all the Muslim immigrants in non-atheist/racist countries aren’t raping nearly as much. This of course makes no sense.
Muslim populations only cause racists/atheists to report rape more often. It’s much easier for a racist/atheist to report a Muslim of rape than a Nordic.
We have seen other atheist countries like NZ that have nearly no Muslims still have extraordinarily high rape rates.
I’m sure if NZ had a high Muslim population Muslims would easily be blamed.
Atheists as a whole are just plain terrible people.
You are a fool who lacks even a basic understanding of statistics. Your comparison only works if Muslims in New Zealand, Sweden, and Switzerland each come from a random sample of men and women from Islamic countries.
Clearly, this is not the case — New Zealand has extremely stringent criteria for foreign immigrants of all stripes, especially Muslims, and Switzerland has even stricter requirements, which ensures that Muslims from both countries are not only educated but far more liberal than average.
Sweden, on the other hand, accepts Muslim refugees straight from the ruins of Mogadishu and Tikrit. The epidemic of rape in Sweden directly coincides directly with the rise of immigration from Muslim nations. Sweden during the ’80s was one of the safest and most crime-free nations on Europe, and the sexual revolution had occurred decades prior in Scandinavia. (indeed, Sweden was one of the first countries to legalize contraception, sodomy, and no-fault divorce.) Clearly, the missing ingredient here is refugees who come from backward, patriarchical cultures where women are treated like filth and denied education.
if not, why does a socially liberal country like Canada have such a lower rate of sexual assault? In fact, when all other variables are accounted for, sexual liberalization has a negative correlation with rape.
The only fool here is you.
Gaining a random sample of Muslims from all Islamic countries is virtually impossible so a random sample is not really relevant when comparing Muslims as a whole (and not certain groups of Muslims). How could it be possible that all Muslim immigrants from different countries would come from a random sample of men and women from Islamic countries? Also this argument indicates that you’re not arguing against Muslims, but only certain Muslims from certain countries and cultures.
So here’s how all your arguments fail:
Firstly you are agreeing that Muslims are not the problem, and that only certain Muslims from the ruins of Mogadishu and Tikrit are the problem. So you already agreeing that Muslims are not the problem only instead a certain group of Muslims. Some how only the Muslims in atheist/racist countries where anyone can report anyone of rape and where Muslims are highly targeted do Muslims have high rape rates.
Secondly, you have still failed to explain New Zealand’s extraordinarily high rape rate despite having nearly no Muslims at all.
Thirdly, Canada is not nearly as promiscuous as New Zealand or Sweden
Fourthly, you seemed to have completely ignored Greece in your arguments.
So all of your arguments have failed thoroughly and you just agreed with me, claiming the problem is refugees who come from backward cultures.
Your entire argument is that only a few select Muslim immigrants in Sweden are raping and Muslims in virtually every other country aren’t raping as much.
I’m sure that even if Sweden had a 0% Muslim population they would still have a very high rape rate simply because atheists are terrible people and have a tendency to rape.
Atheism is far more prevalent in Canada than in the United States but the exact numbers are disputed. (See the section “Statistical problems” above) The Canadian Ipsos Reid poll released September 12, 2011 entitled “Canadians Split On Whether Religion Does More Harm in the World than Good,” sampled 1,129 Canadian adults and came up 43% who do not believe in a god.
How do you explain the low rape rate in Canada if there are so many atheists there and all atheists want to do is rape?
Two more points to add:
- The majority of rapes in Sweden come from ordinary Swedish men so even if you subtracted out all non-white immigrant rapes Sweden’s rape rate would still be close to New Zealand’s rape rate which is extremely high
- Because of the racism in Sweden and Sweden’s rape laws many reported rapes are actually false rapes:
http://www.thelocal.se/10746/20080327/
http://www.thelocal.se/14626/20080929/
http://www.thelocal.se/25654/20100321/
http://www.thelocal.se/33232/20110415/
“The woman later recanted her story about the alleged rape when she learned that a surveillance camera mounted in the taxi had recorded the couple leaving the vehicle without paying.”
“It’s extremely unusual for women to be convicted of bearing false witness in cases of rape. But in this case the evidence was so strong that the prosecutor decided to proceed with an indictment.”
In Sweden if a female falsely reports a non-white male of rape what chance does the male have with all of Sweden’s already existing racism if there’s no definitive evidence?
It’s easy for females to accuse anyone of rape in Sweden.
Sounds like what they say in the middle east. In other words blame the victim or accuse the victim of lying and/or covering up.
lol what are you talking about? I pointed out an actual occurrence of a false rape report in Sweden…are you trying to deny that false rape reports occur like another delusional atheist?
The country with the highest rape rate according to U.N. statistics is Lesotho, but Lesotho has a Muslim population of less than 1,000 (less than 0.1% of the population)
Some how by magic almost ALL of the other countries that have a higher percentage of Muslims some how have lower rape rates than Sweden
I’m trying to talk about objective facts and reality I guess atheists can’t handle it.